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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

IPoker, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $541.61 (270.8 bb)
SB: $300.77 (150.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A 6
CO folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) 6 5 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.30, Hero calls $6.30

Turn: ($21.60) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15.12, Hero calls $15.12

River: ($51.84) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $38, Hero puts in a funky raise?

Villain:
26/19
60% open BTN

64/63(8)/no sample CBet
23 WTS
(670 hands)

Not a huge sample by any means, but my first impression was that villain seemed to be quite aggressive in general and that would lead me to believe that he is capable of bluffing and valuebetting thinly.

So thoughts on turning our hand into a bluff here? Without much history/dynamics do you think I can fold out anything decent?

If you dislike it, are there any better hands that we can use to bluff here? Or should we just simply develop more reads before trying to pull off a bluff in this spot?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

my impression of your game is fairly similar to that of Farma. Both of you just love turning everything into a bluff. My guess is that you guys are getting way too out of line - Surely you need to exercise a little self-restraint sometimes.

i would just fold the turn. I do expect to be facing a 3rd barrel pretty often and this is at the bottom of your turn range (67) or 8X/77


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serverm07
Joined: 08.08.2012

Hi,

I lol'd at mbml' reply tbh :p. but yea just folding turn is fine even though it seems so nitty. On the river you are just not repping much.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hmm this is a phase i went through myself when i first played 400. Everyone was reckless and aggro and i felt like i had to fight fire wih fire.

Now i know better. u fight reckless aggression not with more aggression but by havig a solid balanced range in most spots.


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serverm07
Joined: 08.08.2012

Think I still do it myself at 600 so its not something super uncommon.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Originally posted by mbml
my impression of your game is fairly similar to that of Farma. Both of you just love turning everything into a bluff. My guess is that you guys are getting way too out of line - Surely you need to exercise a little self-restraint sometimes.

i would just fold the turn. I do expect to be facing a 3rd barrel pretty often and this is at the bottom of your turn range (67) or 8X/77

Funny that you say that because I personally feel that I play way to straightforward OTR and rarely bluffs. I could probably count all the times that I have turned something into a bluff by raising OTR on the two of my hands:D

So that is basically why I am posting all these hands where I am looking to find spots to bluff more OTR since I feel that I don't do it enough. But maybe I am starting to move in the wrong direction and overdo it beause since recently I have started to see spots pretty much all the time where I wanna take some funky lines and turn whatever hand into a bluff :P

Is this rly at the bottom of our turn range though? I would also c/c any 5x OTF (54s, 57s, J5s+, K5o+), probably 44, having the gutter so then this hand becomes somewhere in the middle of my range.

A bit OT, but what hands are in your raising range on this flop? I think my ranges are very unbalanced and valueheavy most of the time on these kind of boards. Just right off the bat, I guess I am mostly just raising sets, straights, 2pairs and occasionally 7x for the openender. How does your ranges for raising look here?

And lastly, lol, I thought to myslef that if the spade got there OTR I would ch/raise with my nutflush blocker so I am probably indeed a bit out of line, even if having the nutFD blocker might be a good reason to actually turn our hand into a bluff in that spot.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

You are going to have many 5x or 6x with a gutter to go with the hand. I dont think kicker mattters here too much and A5/A6 are pretty similar assuming villain checks all hands in between those two. So having some draw potential is going to be much better.

Im gonna have some backdoor flush draws and i do think that raising some set blockers or straight draws some % of the time is fine. But dont overdo it as mentioned previously.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Good point about the draws, didn't think of that but that is obv true.

Im gonna have some backdoor flush draws and i do think that raising some set blockers or straight draws some % of the time is fine. But dont overdo it as mentioned previously.

Which street are we talking about now?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

The turn. I guess u are often raising stuff with backdoor equity on the flop but u could still def show up with stuff like A:s7:s sometimes or something similar


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