Originally posted by thazar
what do you beat though QJs, A3s ,A4s , A6s, 78s (and that's assuming that all those hands have made it there)I think folding the river is better ev
Clearly I don't beat much, but not much is shoving either. Surely folding is better there. Not claiming I played it well. 
Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
Originally posted by thazar
what do you beat though QJs, A3s ,A4s , A6s, 78s (and that's assuming that all those hands have made it there)I think folding the river is better ev
Clearly I don't beat much, but not much is shoving either. Surely folding is better there. Not claiming I played it well.
I agree that shoving is a bluff catcher but I much rather do it with AQ+, 22+ or am i a nit? ♦
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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
Hero ($10)
BB ($19.53)
UTG ($14.28)
UTG+1 ($10.62)
CO ($25.60)
BTN ($17.05)
Dealt to Hero Q♥ Q♦
UTG raises to $0.30, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, UTG calls $0.90, fold
FLOP ($2.80) T♦ 2♥ 3♦
Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40
TURN ($5.60) T♦ 2♥ 3♦ 6♣
Hero bets $2.65, UTG calls $2.65
RIVER ($10.90) T♦ 2♥ 3♦ 6♣ 8♥
Hero bets $4.75 (AI), UTG calls $4.75
Hero shows Q♥ Q♦
(Pre 56%, Flop 70.9%, Turn 86.4%)
UTG shows K♦ A♠
(Pre 44%, Flop 29.1%, Turn 13.6%)
Hero wins $19.48
15/5 23h
Preflpo SB vs UTG looks so strong, maybe should, because I dont want to 3bet/push vs so far tight unknown from these positions and 3bet/fold also sucks. Lukily got called.
On turn and river I was like - I am looking so styrong if I bet - what worse can call me. Ok JJ can call me so I bet ♦
@Thazar, yea, that's what my range should've been like 
Think I got slowrolled here, or was he rly thinking of folding that?
Hero (BB): $238.95
UTG: $124.60 (VPIP: 23.01, PFR: 19.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.09, Hands: 1,859)
MP: $216.60 (VPIP: 19.09, PFR: 13.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.83, Hands: 2,072)
CO: $147.25 (VPIP: 19.56, PFR: 16.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.04, Hands: 931)
BTN: $45.00 (VPIP: 21.48, PFR: 19.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.73, Hands: 1,991)
SB: $135.75 (VPIP: 23.87, PFR: 19.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.64, Hands: 10,561)
SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 7♠ 7♥
fold, fold, CO raises to $3.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.50
Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 5♠ 9♣ 7♣
Hero checks, CO bets $5.40, Hero raises to $17.00, CO calls $11.60
Turn: ($41.50, 2 players) 7♦
Hero bets $28.00, CO calls $28.00
River: ($97.50, 2 players) K♠
Hero bets $190.45 and is all-in, CO calls $98.75 and is all-in
Hero shows 7♠ 7♥ (Four of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 20%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks K♥ K♣ (Full House, Kings full of Sevens) (Pre 80%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $292.00
Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
@Thazar, yea, that's what my range should've been likeThink I got slowrolled here, or was he rly thinking of folding that?
Hero (BB): $238.95
UTG: $124.60 (VPIP: 23.01, PFR: 19.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.09, Hands: 1,859)
MP: $216.60 (VPIP: 19.09, PFR: 13.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.83, Hands: 2,072)
CO: $147.25 (VPIP: 19.56, PFR: 16.06, 3Bet Preflop: 8.04, Hands: 931)
BTN: $45.00 (VPIP: 21.48, PFR: 19.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.73, Hands: 1,991)
SB: $135.75 (VPIP: 23.87, PFR: 19.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.64, Hands: 10,561)SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 7♠ 7♥
fold, fold, CO raises to $3.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.50
Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 5♠ 9♣ 7♣
Hero checks, CO bets $5.40, Hero raises to $17.00, CO calls $11.60Turn: ($41.50, 2 players) 7♦
Hero bets $28.00, CO calls $28.00River: ($97.50, 2 players) K♠
Hero bets $190.45 and is all-in, CO calls $98.75 and is all-inHero shows 7♠ 7♥ (Four of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 20%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks K♥ K♣ (Full House, Kings full of Sevens) (Pre 80%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $292.00
hehe nice
:f_biggrin: :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 223.7 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 240)
Hero (SB): 189.2 BB
BB: 235.9 BB
UTG: 355.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 218.5 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 745)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ K♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 2♥ 7♠
Hero checks, BB checks
Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 9 BB
River: (42 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, BB checks
Hero shows 6♣ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 58%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB mucks K♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 42%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 40.1 BB
Originally posted by Rihard4a
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4BTN: 223.7 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 240)
Hero (SB): 189.2 BB
BB: 235.9 BB
UTG: 355.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 218.5 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 745)Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ K♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 2♥ 7♠
Hero checks, BB checksTurn: (6 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 9 BBRiver: (42 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, BB checksHero shows 6♣ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 58%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB mucks K♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 42%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 40.1 BB
why 3bet turn with such weak pair?
Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c
Originally posted by Rihard4a
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4BTN: 223.7 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 240)
Hero (SB): 189.2 BB
BB: 235.9 BB
UTG: 355.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 218.5 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 745)Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ K♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 2♥ 7♠
Hero checks, BB checksTurn: (6 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 9 BBRiver: (42 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, BB checksHero shows 6♣ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 58%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB mucks K♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 42%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 40.1 BBwhy 3bet turn with such weak pair?
his minraise doesn't rep much. once he calls I was ready for x/f otr.
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 38.1 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 66)
SB: 117.3 BB
Hero (BB): 131.3 BB
UTG: 85.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 375.3 BB (VPIP: 14.05, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 6.94, Hands: 191)
CO: 176.4 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 5.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3♥ 3♠
fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB
Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 2♥ 3♣ J♥
Hero bets 4.5 BB, fold, CO raises to 13 BB, Hero raises to 30 BB, CO raises to 173.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 98.8 BB and is all-in
Turn: (265.6 BB, 2 players) T♦
River: (265.6 BB, 2 players) 8♠
Hero shows 3♥ 3♠ (Three of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
CO shows 2♠ 2♦ (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins 253.6 BB
Originally posted by Rihard4a
Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c
Originally posted by Rihard4a
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4BTN: 223.7 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 12.39, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 240)
Hero (SB): 189.2 BB
BB: 235.9 BB
UTG: 355.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
MP: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
CO: 218.5 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 745)Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♣ K♣
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 2♥ 7♠
Hero checks, BB checksTurn: (6 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 9 BBRiver: (42 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, BB checksHero shows 6♣ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 58%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB mucks K♥ 3♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 42%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 40.1 BBwhy 3bet turn with such weak pair?
his minraise doesn't rep much. once he calls I was ready for x/f otr.
So you're turning tp into a bluff here trying to get him to fold his bluffs? Genius
I almost layed it down. ♠_frown:
Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
SB: $6.24 (39 bb)
BB: $18.60 (116.3 bb)
UTG: $19.16 (119.8 bb)
MP: $15.04 (94 bb)
Hero (CO): $18.02 (112.6 bb)
BTN: $16 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K
K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.52, 3 folds, MP calls $1.04
Flop: ($3.28) T
8
6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.60, MP calls $1.60
Turn: ($6.48) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.12, MP raises to $11.92 and is all-in, Hero calls $8.80
River: ($30.32) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results:
$30.32 pot ($1.36 rake)
Final Board: T 8 6 J J
MP showed 2 2 and lost (-$15.04 net)
Hero showed K K and won $28.96 ($13.92 net)
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
BTN: $51.38 (513.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $14.68 (146.8 bb)
BB: $11.40 (114 bb)
UTG: $23.01 (230.1 bb)
MP: $13.88 (138.8 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds
Flop: ($1) T A 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40
Turn: ($2.20) K (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.10, BTN folds, Hero raises to $13.98 and is all-in, MP calls $12.08 and is all-in
River: ($28.56) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results:
$28.56 pot ($1.29 rake)
Final Board: T A 7 K K
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.70 net)
Hero showed Q J and lost (-$13.88 net)
MP showed K T and won $27.27 ($13.39 net)
Turn "value" FTW! I can hit straight flush, flush, i got the straight, woohooo
What's better than raise with air, barrel turn and give up on the river only to win at showdown
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $0.79 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: $3.03 (VPIP: 10.26, PFR: 6.41, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 79)
Hero (BB): $2.29
UTG: $2.09 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP: $3.25
CO: $5.16
SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♦ T♠
UTG raises to $0.04, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.12, 3 players) 3♣ 9♠ 8♣
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.04, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, UTG calls $0.11
Turn: ($0.42, 2 players) J♥
Hero bets $0.24, UTG calls $0.24
River: ($0.90, 2 players) 4♥
Hero checks, UTG checks
Hero shows A♦ T♠ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 66%, Flop 52%, Turn 73%)
UTG mucks 5♣ A♣ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 34%, Flop 48%, Turn 27%)
Hero wins $0.87
Probably it's winning your first 400bb+ pot
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $4.79 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
SB: $6.33 (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
Hero (BB): $4.37
UTG: $0.95 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: $4.37 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 8.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 117)
CO: $2.36 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 25)
SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 8♣ 9♠
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.02
Flop: ($0.08, 2 players) 7♣ J♦ T♣
SB bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.19, SB calls $0.13
Turn: ($0.46, 2 players) 5♠
SB bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.01, SB calls $0.75
River: ($2.48, 2 players) 4♠
SB bets $1.42, Hero raises to $3.13 and is all-in, SB calls $1.71
Hero shows 8♣ 9♠ (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 14%, Flop 65%, Turn 77%)
SB shows T♠ T♥ (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 86%, Flop 35%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins $8.44
Nice try though 
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NL Holdem $50(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($9,950)
BB ($8,075)
UTG ($10,775)
Hero ($9,850)
UTG+2 ($11,450)
MP1 ($9,925)
CO ($9,625)
BTN ($10,350)
Dealt to Hero K♥ J♥
fold, Hero raises to $125, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $350, fold, fold, Hero calls $225
FLOP ($775) 6♥ 7♦ 4♠
Hero checks, BTN checks
TURN ($775) 6♥ 7♦ 4♠ 3♥
Hero bets $403, BTN calls $403
RIVER ($1,581) 6♥ 7♦ 4♠ 3♥ 2♣
Hero bets $822, BTN raises to $2,450, Hero raises to $9,097 (AI), BTN folds
Hero shows K♥ J♥
Hero wins $6,481
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/4465691_494F7AF4D4
Stars will go broke if i ever win an mtt so they wont lemme do it seems legit
Ya getting out in similar fashions at stars these days Hope I get the 100k in vip giveaway and it evens out 
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 130.6 BB (VPIP: 72.22, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
SB: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 28.89, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 47)
Hero (BB): 112.6 BB
UTG: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 21.33, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 8.42, Hands: 512)
MP: 69.8 BB
CO: 78.7 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ 9♥
fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) K♣ 2♥ K♠
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB
Turn: (15.5 BB, 3 players) 9♣
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB
River: (63.5 BB, 3 players) A♦
Hero checks, MP bets 48.8 BB and is all-in, BTN raises to 97.6 BB, Hero calls 91.6 BB and is all-in
BTN shows A♣ 7♦ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 25%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K♥ 9♥ (Full House, Kings full of Nines) (Pre 28%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
MP shows J♣ J♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (Pre 47%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 282.2 BB
♠_o:
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Known players:
[tg]BB$5.80:///////;CO$5.00:///////;BU$16.07:///////;SB (Hero)$5.74:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is SB with A:c, A:s.
CO folds, BU calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, BB folds, BU calls $0.20.
Flop: ($0.55) A:h, 2:c, 4:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, BU calls $0.45.
Turn: ($1.45) 7:c (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BU raises to $2.55, Hero raises to $5.04, BU calls $2.49.
River: ($11.53) 8:s (2 players)
Final Pot: $11.53.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, aces(A:c A:s).
BU shows high card ace(9:d Q:c).
Hero wins with three of a kind, aces(A:c A:s).
PKR, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $102.46 (204.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $157.28 (314.6 bb)
SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $21.78 (43.6 bb)
UTG: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
MP: $59.95 (119.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1
Flop: ($3.25) 3 K A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BB calls $6.50
River: ($21.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $11.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.28
Results:
$43.81 pot ($2.19 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 9 Q
Hero showed A A and lost (-$21.78 net)
BB showed J T and won $41.62 ($19.84 net)
