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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
SB: $1 (50 bb)
BB: $1.51 (75.5 bb)
UTG+1: $2.79 (139.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.02 (51 bb)
MP1: $0.30 (15 bb)
Hero (MP2): $2 (100 bb)
MP3: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
CO: $1.88 (94 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8 8
UTG+1 raises to $0.04, 8 folds

Results:

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$0.05 pot
UTG+1 mucked and won $0.05 ($0.03 net)

Hi,
Is that +EV to apply call 20x here? how about if someone 3Bet? 15x?
Thanks.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Hey J,

Purely setmining will generally be -EV so you want hands and situations that can win even when not hitting a set. 88 is good enough to also flop a decent pair and get to showdown, it's not always floppping dead. I would say don't find excuses to play hands like 22-55, not in single raised pots without initiative, nor in 3bet pots.


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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
Hey J,

Purely setmining will generally be -EV so you want hands and situations that can win even when not hitting a set. 88 is good enough to also flop a decent pair and get to showdown, it's not always floppping dead. I would say don't find excuses to play hands like 22-55, not in single raised pots without initiative, nor in 3bet pots.

Hi,
so, how do you play this hand? I think it is easy call if in BTN. Besides, do you call if 22-55? Then how to play postflop?


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

No, I would generally fold small pockets, call middle ones with the intention to also call postflop on many boards, at least one bet or bluff raise some.


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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
No, I would generally fold small pockets, call middle ones with the intention to also call postflop on many boards, at least one bet or bluff raise some.

I think NL2 players hard to fold TP, so it might be +ev to pure setmine VS unknown.
how about NL10?
Do you think pure setmine is -ev even though in NL2?


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010

Yes, dead money is dead money at NL2 or NL2k. People have a hard time folding TP, true but they need it to be top pair all the way, not just on the flop, plus the board has to be dry all the way. If you get better odds and have more people into the pot already, set mining becomes an option.


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