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NL10 SH ZOOM 55 multiway bottom set vs 2 fish

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wlcKeD
Joined: 24.02.2009

BTN: $8.85 (88.5 bb) Possibly a fish.
SB: $6.73 (67.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.50 (105 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $12.21 (122.1 bb) Fish.
CO: $24.19 (241.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5♥ 5♣
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB folds, Hero calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 5♦ 6♠ 8♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.60, BTN raises to $2, Hero calls $2, MP calls $1.40

Turn: ($7.25) 8♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.50, BTN raises to $6.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.45, MP calls $2.95

River: ($26.60) 6♦ (3 players, 1 is all-in)
Hero bets $1.65 and is all-in, MP calls $1.65

Spoiler

Results: $29.90 pot ($1.35 rake)
Final Board: 5♦ 6♠ 8♣ 8♠ 6♦
BTN showed A♠ 8♥ and won $12.70 ($3.85 net)
Hero showed 5♥ 5♣ and lost (-$10.50 net)
MP showed J♥ 8♦ and won $15.85 ($5.35 net)

FLOP: checked with the plan to x/r, but since the fish donked, and presumably another fish - BTN - raised, decided to just call, and leave the possible fishes in the pot with much worse hands/draws. As well as I'm already behind vs better sets, and 79, if fishes has it, so I don't see much reason to 3bet here, cause the only worse hands that are calling are probably just premium overpairs, but even they can find a fold here sometimes, as well as Im wayyy ahead of them anyway, and there are a lot of good turn cards to still get moneys in vs them. I block 56 and 58, so just 68 left, but still I can get money in on a lot of turns anyway vs this, and also I think If I 3bet this flop, even 87, 67 can find a fold, so ... I think a call is best here in this particular situation vs two fish, and just hoping not to see 7 or a 9 on turn. Pretty much everything else is in my favor. So don't see the reason to 3bet flop and scare them off.

TURN: turn the relative nuts here, if I'm already beat, then I'm beat, nothing I can do about it here anyway I think, so decided to play it passively till river, and see what others will do. And since the action continues, I go with my passive plan, and just call. And I think it is quite good not to just shove here, leaving myself that 1.65 behind, cause the fish might not notice that im committed anyway, and if I shove, my bet LOOKS a bit bigger to him, and he even might fold something [it is hard to predict how fish plays, but I've really seen quite enough of ridiculous folds from them once in a while], so since I just call, he gets even nicer odds [ he probably doesn't notice that either, but still sees that he has to "put in" just "a FEW bucks" anyway], and are more likely to call with a worse hand.

And now river is just completely awful, if I'm beat, I'm beat, nothing I can do, but the fish still can call worse, since it is just 1.65 into 26, so I think there's no reason to check here, and leave myself this amount behind, is there ?

So given this unique spot vs 2 fishes, I think I played the hand kinda "optimally". But would be interested to hear anyway, WHY do you think I played it bad ?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey wicKeD,

Preflop call is fine here.

I generally prefer to lead sets on a multiway flop (unless texture is very dry), but x/r is a close second.

I agree with flop analysis, flat vs BTN 2bet is good here.

Turn play is fine.

River bet is fine so long as we think we are getting called by worse hands <50% of the time, otherwise technically the correct option is just to check and make a call due to pot odds. (Opponent may check back and we save ourself $1.65).


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