ATs vs raise and check river

GingerKid

Joined: 05.08.2007

19.03.2014, 21:38 0

partypoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137.16 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 34)
SB: 32.5 BB (VPIP: 19.58, PFR: 18.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.43, Hands: 439)
BB: 295 BB (VPIP: 22.95, PFR: 16.39, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 125)
UTG: 472.08 BB (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 38)
Hero (MP): 262.64 BB
CO: 254.34 BB (VPIP: 16.13, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ A♠

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) J♣ 7♠ 3♠
BB checks, Hero bets 6.78 BB, CO calls 6.78 BB, BB raises to 21 BB, Hero calls 14.22 BB, fold

Turn: (58.28 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB bets 39 BB, Hero calls 39 BB

River: (136.28 BB, 2 players) 8♥
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler

BB shows J♦ A♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights) (Pre 70%, Flop 62%, Turn 73%)
Hero mucks T♠ A♠ (One Pair, Eights) (Pre 30%, Flop 38%, Turn 27%)
BB wins 130.28 BB

is check river ok? I allready beat all bluffs and his hand looks like give up.

Villians line was quite interesting. Preflop I think he should sqeeze? But, postflop is interessting. If he calls only, there are so many bad cards to come and he is not a big favorite vs draws, also not vs my turn bet range.
If he raises, it can be that I even fold overpairs and continue with strong hands and draws, so it looks he is in a better shape with raise?
Off course once I see it, I will not fold anymore overpairs.

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_Anonymous_

19.03.2014, 22:48 0

Hi GingerKid

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: I think that you can't bluff the river as played.

if he folds something it's always a worse draw anyway.

As far as his play goes he may have avoided the squeeze because of your image (which we don't know what exactly it is) and the fact that all 3 of you are deep (so he may want to avoid big pots).

And postflop he could donk too but raising there is fine as well.

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clawindsouza

Joined: 08.12.2009

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19.03.2014, 23:28 0

If the river was a non paired spade, what would be a good bet size for us?

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mesisification

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20.03.2014, 02:37 0

Originally posted by clawindsouza
If the river was a non paired spade, what would be a good bet size for us?

Really small I would say.

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_Anonymous_

20.03.2014, 03:21 0

We are pretty deep overall and his range should have a fair amount of draws as well along with some sets/TP maybe 2p.

So I don't think we should bet too small, but something between 1/2-2/3 is fine

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GingerKid Topic starter

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20.03.2014, 09:25 0

Originally posted by BogdanPS
We are pretty deep overall and his range should have a fair amount of draws as well along with some sets/TP maybe 2p.

So I don't think we should bet too small, but something between 1/2-2/3 is fine

On river we dont have any bluff. So if we bet any size, it is hardly a bluff in villian eyes. Would it make sense to turn some buttom of range hands into bluff, like maybe KJ and bet bigger? Can we expect villian to fold set in NL50?
So in that case we could bet big.

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_Anonymous_

20.03.2014, 14:07 0

It's true that we should rarely ever have bluffs (except some rare club floats).

As far as turning those hands into a bluff (the weaker parts of our range) depends a lot on your image and understanding of villain. You play on Party and people are notorious for making super light call downs there so expecting them to fold a set is quite optimistic.

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