Move it, move it up to the sky!

I don't like shipping the turn, because we probably do this only with nuts.

What other hands do you take that line with?

When we just call we can still have some Khx, sets, etc.

villain is a fish, who cares?

if villain is a really good reg we could talk about minraising flop with a "balanced range" of good flushes and K:h but as played it just seems to me like "villain likes his hand let's get the money in asap before board pairs or another ♥ appears", the only thing keeping me from raising otf is that villain might be an insane spewy fish

Originally posted by Tomaloc
villain is a fish, who cares?

if villain is a really good reg we could talk about minraising flop with a "balanced range" of good flushes and K:h but as played it just seems to me like "villain likes his hand let's get the money in asap before board pairs or another ♥ appears", the only thing keeping me from raising otf is that villain might be an insane spewy fish

Actually he played his had very well. I don't see a reason to raise nor flop or turn. If the guy is a spewy loldonk we want to keep him betting. When we raise we are always tightening his continuing range. But he can triple barrel god knows what range, but when we raise he has different range. If he likes bluffing on such board with J T , why do we want him to fold?

exactly, that's my point when i'm saying "villain might be an insane spewy fish" - that's definitely not an unlikely possibility
you have to balance that with the times that he has like AT no heart or something and goes c/f when the 4th heart appears, which one is more likely? i don't know

when fish take polarizing lines like this i try to take any possible info to guess if he's more likely to be bluffing or not, think this is a bit of an interesting spot and raising has its merits as well.
imo the only reason to not raise is "he's likely to be spewing" - balance is NOT a good reason

Originally posted by Tomaloc
exactly, that's my point when i'm saying "villain might be an insane spewy fish" - that's definitely not an unlikely possibility
you have to balance that with the times that he has like AT no heart or something and goes c/f when the 4th heart appears, which one is more likely? i don't know

when fish take polarizing lines like this i try to take any possible info to guess if he's more likely to be bluffing or not, think this is a bit of an interesting spot and raising has its merits as well.
imo the only reason to not raise is "he's likely to be spewing" - balance is NOT a good reason

If he is spewing on 3 hearts, why would expect him to stop at fourth? Fish gonna fish no matter what...

i mean that villain might have some "value" hands that stop at a 4th heart, if he's bluffing ofc he's going to AI on the 4th heart ♦

What's up guys?

I'm not updating that much, because I don't really know what to say

I have been grinding and going to Uni, that's my life pretty much ♠_cool:

I'll probably start posting more hands, just so we get some discussions going on. This month things are going good, MAYBE I'll reach 25NL, that'll be awesome.

Graph and a funny hand:

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG rebourne2012 ($41.66) 417bb
UTG+1 nls.prod ($18.04) 180bb
CO Hero ($11.20) 112bb
BTN Navalici0us ($7.21) 72bb
SB Invictüs ($13.39) 134bb
BB lecac2s ($16.33) 163bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO K♦ A♥
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.22, 2 folds, lecac2s calls $0.12

Flop: A♦ 4♣ A♣ ($0.49, 2 players)
lecac2s checks, Hero bets $0.23, lecac2s calls $0.23

Turn: K♣ ($0.95, 2 players)
lecac2s checks, Hero bets $0.80, lecac2s raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $2.40, lecac2s goes all-in $15.88, Hero goes all-in $8.35

River: 4♦ ($22.45, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $22.45
lecac2s shows two pair, Aces and Kings
K♥ Q♦
Hero shows a full house, Aces full of Kings
K♦ A♥

Hero wins $21.44 (net +$10.24)

lecac2s collects $5.13 (net -$11.20)

If all days when I run bad would be like this, I wouldn't mind running bad. ♠_biggrin:

And some nice hands:

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG D0n_Radja ($11.64) 116bb
UTG+1 Yang Theng ($11.31) 113bb
CO Likvid01 ($11.67) 117bb
BTN Hero ($10) 100bb
SB MaeStr0zaj ($10.15) 102bb
BB The_JokerG7 ($11.63) 116bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN K♦ A♥
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.22, MaeStr0zaj raises to $0.76, The_JokerG7 raises to $1.85, Hero calls $1.63, MaeStr0zaj folds

Flop: 7♥ 2♣ 5♠ ($4.46, 2 players)
The_JokerG7 checks, Hero checks

Turn: 4♥ ($4.46, 2 players)
The_JokerG7 bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: 6♣ ($10.46, 2 players)
The_JokerG7 goes all-in $6.78, Hero goes all-in $5.15

Final Pot: $20.76
Hero shows high card Ace - King kicker
K♦ A♥
The_JokerG7 shows high card Ace
Q♣ A♦

Hero wins $19.83 (net +$9.83)

The_JokerG7 collects $1.63 (net -$10.00)
MaeStr0zaj lost $0.76

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10) 100bb
UTG+1 barnabee ($10.73) 107bb
CO flushsoldier ($8.36) 84bb
BTN ekb_nmk ($10.06) 101bb
SB kiekeboe0668 ($2.32) 23bb
BB 1001st ($10.10) 101bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Q♦ Q♣
Hero raises to $0.27, barnabee calls $0.27, flushsoldier calls $0.27, ekb_nmk raises to $0.44, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, barnabee folds, flushsoldier folds, ekb_nmk raises to $2.76, Hero goes all-in $10, ekb_nmk calls $7.24

Flop: 2♠ 4♥ 5♣ ($20.69, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: K♠ ($20.69, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: A♥ ($20.69, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $20.69
ekb_nmk shows high card Ace
J♦ 6♦
Hero shows a pair of Queens
Q♦ Q♣

Hero wins $19.76 (net +$9.76)

ekb_nmk lost $10
barnabee lost $0.27
flushsoldier lost $0.27

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Late_30 ($19.05) 191bb
UTG+1 vasyamilash ($11.77) 118bb
CO Glenaldo ($10.12) 101bb
BTN mixaillov ($16.78) 168bb
SB Hero ($10.60) 106bb
BB norule555 ($23.27) 233bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Q♣ Q♠
3 folds, mixaillov raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.15, 1 fold, mixaillov calls $0.75

Flop: 2♦ 2♠ 3♦ ($2.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, mixaillov calls $1.45

Turn: J♣ ($5.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, mixaillov goes all-in $14.18, Hero goes all-in $6

River: 5♦ ($21.30, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $21.30
mixaillov shows two pair, Sevens and Deuces
7♣ 7♦
Hero shows two pair, Queens and Deuces
Q♣ Q♠

Hero wins $20.34 (net +$9.74)

mixaillov collects $6.18 (net -$10.60)

$0.05/$0.10 Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG alejoanba ($11.43) 114bb
UTG+1 Nasry_u_yidy ($10.83) 108bb
CO emo114 ($25.24) 252bb
BTN Hero ($10.24) 102bb
SB Bogatur777 ($13.66) 137bb
BB cavalopok ($10.15) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN K♦ 8♠
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.22, 1 fold, cavalopok raises to $1, Hero goes all-in $10.24, cavalopok goes all-in $9.15

Flop: 4♥ 4♣ Q♥ ($20.35, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 9♠ ($20.35, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 7♥ ($20.35, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $20.35
Hero shows a pair of Fours
K♦ 8♠
cavalopok shows a flush, Queen high
10:heart: 8♥

cavalopok wins $19.43 (net +$9.28)

Hero collects $0.09 (net -$10.15)

I saw you at the tables yesterday, how is 25 treating you so far ?

Hey motanu89,

I was just on the point of updating on that.
I did took a shot, which started pretty good, but then things started going a bit bad. I think there are a lot of weak players, but there's definetly an interesting mix of nits, regs and fishes.

This is 25NL overall:

Starting from tomorrow, I'll get back to 10NL. I did learn some things with my shot though and I'll come back stronger then before.

Until then, work hard.

Did my vacation start around 6k hands? ♦ Spew when the boss is not looking!!!!!! ♦