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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

PokerStars - $1000+$50|100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 21,021 (VPIP: 19.38, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 10.15, Hands: 617)
SB: 7,716 (VPIP: 20.24, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 85)
BB: 16,086 (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 20.87, 3Bet Preflop: 7.61, Hands: 218)
UTG: 5,127 (VPIP: 14.52, PFR: 11.15, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 852)
UTG+1: 21,742 (VPIP: 23.61, PFR: 18.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 217)
MP: 9,836 (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 16.05, 3Bet Preflop: 13.51, Hands: 82)
Hero (MP+1): 10,881
MP+2: 9,233 (VPIP: 21.91, PFR: 15.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 251)
CO: 8,395 (VPIP: 16.94, PFR: 12.30, 3Bet Preflop: 7.55, Hands: 124)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 525) Hero has K♣ K♠

fold, UTG+1 raises to 400, fold, Hero raises to 1,024, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2,125, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 3,767, Hero???

both unknow
UTG has 30%+ EP open and playing on tablet he tankish 5bet it

thoughts??


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Hi,

Likely I would shove, since I think he can make that move with AK. Folding is not terrible, but since you´re top of your range I think you can go with KK/AA and fold all the rest

best regards,


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

PokerStars - $1000+$50|100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 21,021 (VPIP: 19.38, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 10.15, Hands: 617)
SB: 7,716 (VPIP: 20.24, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 85)
BB: 16,086 (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 20.87, 3Bet Preflop: 7.61, Hands: 218)
UTG: 5,127 (VPIP: 14.52, PFR: 11.15, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 852)
UTG+1: 21,742 (VPIP: 23.61, PFR: 18.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 217)
MP: 9,836 (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 16.05, 3Bet Preflop: 13.51, Hands: 82)
Hero (MP+1): 10,881
MP+2: 9,233 (VPIP: 21.91, PFR: 15.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 251)
CO: 8,395 (VPIP: 16.94, PFR: 12.30, 3Bet Preflop: 7.55, Hands: 124)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 100, BB posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 525) Hero has K♣ K♠

fold, UTG+1 raises to 400, fold, Hero raises to 1,024, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2,125, fold, fold, UTG+1 raises to 3,767, Hero raises to 5,409, fold, UTG+1 calls 1,642

Flop: (13,468, 2 players) 8♦ 2♠ A♣
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (13,468, 2 players) 8♥
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: (13,468, 2 players) Q♦
UTG+1 bets 16,308 and is all-in, fold

thoughts?

my plan was if btn shove and UTG reshove to fold and probably sigh call of vs utg and sigh sigh tank sigh call off vs btn

but he just call and flop came Ahi and river is Q so i cant beat anything here right?


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Hi,

Don´t really like your plan putting half yoru stack in and then fold.
Also it likely looks less strong and more like AK if you shove directly.
As played: I would likely bet 2,5k on the turn and call shove. There should be some merit protecting against TT-QQ and you may fold his KK.
As played: QQ got there, but I have really no idea if he would ever 5-bet bluff with AQ and then call your 6-bet or would he take the same line with JJ. Feels like you´re never taking this line AK, sometimes with aces , so if his plan was to get all-in pre JJ he would likely turn his hand into bluff

best regards,


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Just fold to the cold 4bet, positionally you will not ever be getting exploited here by the cold 5bet.

Without history you shouldn't have much of a 3bet range here. Just call 99+ AQ+ and some of the suited broadway hands.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Just fold to the cold 4bet, positionally you will not ever be getting exploited here by the cold 5bet.

Without history you shouldn't have much of a 3bet range here. Just call 99+ AQ+ and some of the suited broadway hands.

Opener has 30% open from EP and he is not reg and i think btn will have worse hands in his range when he 4 bet

@kaitz i have 26bb behind and 30 min levels so i dont think that we r like committed


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Shove over cold 5bet then, he's committed to calling it off with AK preflop anyway (which means if he folds it's good for us).


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Shove over cold 5bet then, he's committed to calling it off with AK preflop anyway (which means if he folds it's good for us).

BUT WHAT ABOUT BTN?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

I generally assume BU is bluffing often enough for us to just put it in. I get your purpose of making a small 5bet with the purpose of folding vs his 6bet all-in range of KK+ (which we do very poorly against), however it's actually reasonably rare that this happens IMHO, and it just ends up being an unnecessary measure that ends up giving UTG+1 good odds to actually hoodflat us with some range.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
I generally assume BU is bluffing often enough for us to just put it in. I get your purpose of making a small 5bet with the purpose of folding vs his 6bet all-in range of KK+ (which we do very poorly against), however it's actually reasonably rare that this happens IMHO, and it just ends up being an unnecessary measure that ends up giving UTG+1 good odds to actually hoodflat us with some range.

ok what about post as played???


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Take your time checking back the turn and postflop becomes quite standard. In this instance if you have AK or QQ (though you should not), you will play the same way and likely AA too so we are not going to be exploited here => he has a very very unprofitable bluff with 76s type hand.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Take your time checking back the turn and postflop becomes quite standard. In this instance if you have AK or QQ (though you should not), you will play the same way and likely AA too so we are not going to be exploited here => he has a very very unprofitable bluff with 76s type hand.

yea thats what i did tank ch/ F/T and he insta shove river so i guess it was easy fold on R


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