-$800 total, bye poker. – Page 4

_Anonymous_ · 2008-10-13T05:19:08Z

started with $10 in june that i deposited myself due to problems with sending in my ID(eventually resolved) and about a week later i was up $120 or so by coming 2nd in the weekly depositors freerolls. read up the articles, became a fairly proficient SSS'er at NL20. eventually moved up to NL50 with $325 BR, within 6 hours i was down to $120 won another tournament, BR went up to $400 played NL20 to get the feel of it again, watched many many coaching videos, attended a few SSS coachings, and even got help off some forum members. BR went up to $420 from NL20 at my average 4-8BB/100 hands while i was getting used to SSS and rebuilding my confidence etc. i get stuck into NL50 again, down to $140 in a few hours with a win rate of -260bb/100 hands. i figured i must be doing something wrong, i've played probably 7k hands at NL50 and am losing alot of money. i look through my hands and compare them to my NL20 hands, my play style is very similar on both limits, except i stealraise against tight players more often on NL50. i decide to stop stealraising altogether. win another tournament, BR is back up to $300 play with my new style on NL50, go back down to $125 in a couple of hours. absolutely sick of cash games, so i decide to give SnG's a go, i have a fairly good grasp of ICM and according to ICM trainer i have gotten 89% correct descisions over 1480 hands(i just kept grinding ICM trainer to make sure i still remembered it properly) read and re-read all the articles related to sit n go, attend 2 coachings and watch all the videos i can. by the time i open my first table i am fairly confident i can play a decent sit n go game. i start out with my $125 bankroll on $5 games. within 1 night i am up to $330(i play 16 tables at once because i get bored with any less, and i played about 8 hours that night). i figure this is about normal, i had around a 10-15% ROI according to pokertracker, and according to sit n go wizard i was making very few mistakes. i go to sleep, the next day i wake up and start on $10 SnG's. my BR is down to $200 within 15 SnG's... yes, i only made it ITM in 1 of my 15 SnG's played. according to sit n go wizard i made 2 mistakes over all 15 games. i move back down to $5 as i figure ill get a couple of hundred more games there for experience. 100 games later im back down to $60. i get $140 rakeback, and start at $5 again. another 100-150 games later, im back down to $60. i get a friend of mine who introduced me to these forums and is a fairly successful sit n go player, as well as a platnium member, to rail me on teamviewer and skype while i played a set of $2 sit n goes. after about 10 games he told me about certain raises i shoulda been making pre-ICM stage, and advised me to play a little looser pre-icm(i fold AJ from early/mid and fold AQ to any raise, i raise TT+ AK only, and AQ from SB) but also said that it shouldnt matter too much. i decide to start playing $2 Sit N goes, and play complete ABC poker. down to $30 BR within 50 games. I look through my games in Sit N go wizard, and find i've made 15 mistakes in all 50 games, thats a >90% ICM correct game. i figure its just luck(which it is, most times i was pushing with the best/dominating hand and they were sucking out literally every time) I move down to $1 Sit N Go's, finally start making something, after 40 games im up $4. I compare my game in the $1 SnG's to my game in the $2 SnG's and find almost no difference. im shoving with the same range, and calling with the same range. im playing a 90% correct ICM game. I play another 100 or so $1 SnG's, now im down to $10. thats the exact amount i started with almost 4 months ago. i've decided to stop playing poker, i've probably put about 30-40 hours of work into it merely grinding nl10/nl20/$1/$2 SnG's and moving up the limits(i used to play 2-4 tables of $2 SnG's when i finally got my $2 on full tilt) now im back to $10, i have made exactly no profit, not only that, i've learnt what appears to be a completely useless skill. i can play poker in a way that, over an infinite amount of time, will eventually make money. pity it doesnt work over such a small sample size of 2000 Sit N Goes and 25k hands on cash games... edit: if you want to see something hilarious, check out my sharkscope graph. on IPOKER network, username is semesa

_Anonymous_

16.10.2008, 06:57 0

ok... I am in the process of revising everything i have done.

In order to make poker more interesting with only 1 table, i've started playing HU, i dabbled in a bit of HU a month ago and learned the basics and a little on reads. I am going to pretty much take everything people said in this thread and try to improve it, but in a way that will keep poker interesting for me.

I know almost nothing about HU other than what i learned from watching skribbles play, he taught me a little bit, but im basically winging it, trying to base my game purely off reads in order to improve my reads.

I realise i have no where near the bankroll to play HU, but with $15 left, i figured i didnt have the bankroll for anything, so it didnt matter so much if i broke BRM, since i would be breaking BRM regardless of what i played.

that being said, once i have the BR for any limit of HU i will start playing on that limit.
but for now, NL10 seems good enough for me.

i dont expect this upswing to continue for long. All i can do is play my best and hope my reads are solid enough to get me out of trouble.

_Anonymous_

20.11.2008, 02:25 0

Seriously, get a job, do not play poker. You can never make it. I.E (You might as well transfer all your funds to my account) Then look at the job advertisment section for a JOB!!!

Dragar

Joined: 09.09.2008

Posts: 2,590

20.11.2008, 02:50 0

Look becoming a winning player takes a long time.

I am roughly break even now.. after a year.... I think thats good progress already (just play 4k hands, loss: .72 cents). Another year or so and I might actually be winning since I got a long way to go and around 2 big leaks (which I know off) I am trying to correct and some other minor ones.
Every leak costs me money the first time or second time I see it, and not just little.. but an entire Buy-in. I am break even since these leaks go around errors which have little chance of happening... but well in 4k hands they happen 4-5 times or so.. hence I can't win as of now.

If you loose 800$ you have massive leaks which you either don't know off or don't want to know off.

What you see on TV... all those poker pros... do not play like they do. They only play that way since they know who they are up against. Your up against random, no reads no nothing... stick to strategy.

I actually find some of their plays pathetic to be honest. I watched a high stakes table... 100k gone in 2 hands just because he thinks he can push.
Or hellmuth... oh man. The beats he gets are just hillarious some times.

If you loose 800$ something is seriously wrong. You have major leaks and you should never be multitabling. In fact, why are you playing SnG??? Those things are hard and take time.

Just play some SSS or something to get you bankroll going again.

Oh and about the multitabling part... stop. I am multitabling 4 tables of BSS SH games right now..... and I still make errors. A while ago I folded QK on a board with K on it and other folds because I time out. It doesn't happen a lot but still.
If I can't manage 4 tables properly... after a year of playing (half a year online), breaking even, unlike you who is down 800$... how the hell can you handle 16 tables?????

You need an entire different approach to poker.
Admit to yourself that your a bad player, start learning from there.

I play on GGpoker even though it says Pokerstars. None of my hand histories will have villain stats.

jonnyjm

Joined: 24.03.2008

Posts: 449

23.11.2008, 23:57 0

back to the origional post,

playing NL50 with $300 to $400 strikes concern, very under BR'd

$400 / 50 = 8 buy ins! the fact you seem to lose alot of money at this limit,
may suggest somewhere in your subconious your playing scared?
it may not feel like it but i know with 8-buy-ins until bust its hard to play
an aggressive A game.

what is your BRM out of curiosity?

excelgeo

Joined: 17.10.2008

Posts: 1,107

24.11.2008, 12:48 0

16 TABLES is all i remember.

oh and pushing 23 on a feeling.

please dont quit poker. come to full tilt

Excelgeo assumes no responsibility for losses incurred while following his advice as he has been known to dish out some real shitty ideas every now and then.
If you record profits, however, credit should be given where credit is due.

jonnyjm

Joined: 24.03.2008

Posts: 449

25.11.2008, 06:00 0

i agree...come to FT

[Closed] -$800 total, bye poker.