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NL20 6max QQ deep oop 4b pot

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mrxLT
Joined: 02.09.2008

€0.20 NL - Holdem - 6 players

Hero (BB): €43.29
UTG: €26.17
MP: €20.00
CO: €22.77
BTN: €29.15
SB: €21.06

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.20

Pre Flop: (€0.30) Hero has Q♠ Q♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to €0.40, fold, Hero raises to €1.40, BTN raises to €3.40, Hero calls €2.00

Flop: (€6.90, 2 players) 8♥ 5♠ 6♠
Hero checks, BTN bets €2.60, Hero calls €2.60

Turn: (€12.10, 2 players) 7♠
Hero checks, BTN bets €4.80, Hero calls €4.80

River: (€21.70, 2 players) 3♠
Hero checks, BTN bets €18.35, Hero calls €18.35

vs reg 21/17/8 (750 hands)
He has high 4b+ 22% (13/60)
Cbet Flop 81/ Turn 64
We dont have alot of 3b-4b-5b dynamics so i believe when hes 4b here hes polarized either KK+ or bluffs with A, K blockers.
It feels i missplayed the hand.
Whats our line? cc flop cf turn? donk flop donk turn ?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Preflop: Your analysis makes sense.

F: C/C is the standard line against a polarized range. If you think he will bet/call Flop or bet/push flop with plenty of worse hands like A8 or draws, then check-raising could be reasonable.

T: Given his bet size, I think you have an easy c/c for sure, esp with the Q:s

R: Now it's kind of tricky. Is he really barreling that BAD turn card with pure air (no K:s or A:s) and then bluff jamming this River?

You could probably find a hero-fold here.


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mrxLT
Joined: 02.09.2008

Villain had A-high (no spades) and i think hes play was good, my hand actually is face up and i should fold R. Even if i hit my flush its still only a bluffcatcher.
But what about the turn? Can villain bet turn with something like A :spade:J :diamond: ? Even if he has A :spade:9 :heart: does he wanna bet/fold the turn if i ch-shove?
So if i think hes range on the turn is sets, flushes KK,AA with :spade: and some bluffs can we find fold button on the turn?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

hmm the turn is pretty interesting actually, now that i think about it more deeply.

I feel like a A:sX hand would probably bet larger. If you guys were 100-120bb deep, most guys would play A:sX as a Turn jam.

The deep stacks make things more unclear.

I don't think you can fold the Turn though. And you are probably not really having much of a check-shoving range on the Turn, since plenty of flush draws will check-raise the Flop. I guess you would/should check-shove the Turn with a straight.

He doesn't have many sets and 2pairs. Most of the PPs and SCs will flat the 3bet.

People at micros usually 4b with blockers and not suited connectors or Aces (for good reason) because their opponents aren't 3betting with a depolarized range and calling 4bets a lot.


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