JJ overpair shove flop

Hi

Perhaps you might want to consider squeezing slightly smaller (32c) and betting smaller on the flop to go for a 3 street plan.

But I think betting larger on the Flop with the intention of jamming a blank turn is also a reasonable idea.

Once he shoves against you, it's really a snapcall. He shouldn't have too many better hands (9Xs aren't too common, QQ+ 4bets mostly). He has plenty of draws, and weaker players also tend to take this line with smaller pairs like he did here.

A good player may raise A9s/T9s and similar hands right away on the flop, while a fish generally would slowplay it according to my experience. This is probably a fish (stack size).

i don't think it has much to do with good vs no good. In general this board texture is one where you would probably want to flat your entire range as the caller.

Having a raising range could be ok too, but it doesn't matter. Even if villain raises some 9X sometimes, JJ is still a significant favourite anyway.

I was looking at the hand from the perspective of the villain. He has reason to check-raise the flop with a balanced range.

Originally posted by YohanN7
I was looking at the hand from the perspective of the villain. He has reason to check-raise the flop with a balanced range.

So was I.

This is a spot where the 3bettor has many more monsters than the caller. The 3bettor has 0 combos of 99/44, and maybe few to no combos of 9Xs. But at the same time, the caller almost always never has QQ-AA, and rarely has JJ (which would often backraise PF).

When the 3bettor has such a huge range advantage, the caller should be playing his entire range passively, using the few monsters he has to protect his weaker hands.

Originally posted by mbml

Originally posted by YohanN7
I was looking at the hand from the perspective of the villain. He has reason to check-raise the flop with a balanced range.

So was I.

This is a spot where the 3bettor has many more monsters than the caller. The 3bettor has 0 combos of 99/44, and maybe few to no combos of 9Xs. But at the same time, the caller almost always never has QQ-AA, and rarely has JJ (which would often backraise PF).

When the 3bettor has such a huge range advantage, the caller should be playing his entire range passively, using the few monsters he has to protect his weaker hands.

Thank you. I learned something here (about range protection). As an exploitative move, I still like the flop raise. B t w, as the button, I personally do have a few monsters in my range, I don't 4-bet all of them preflop :).