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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $111.95 (112 bb)
BB: $112.01 (112 bb)
UTG: $157.16 (157.2 bb)
MP: $89.99 (90 bb)
CO: $29.67 (29.7 bb)
BTN: $110.18 (110.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 Q
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 2 A K (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($14) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Results:

Spoiler

$14 pot ($0.63 rake)
Final Board: 2 A K 2 3
Hero showed 4 Q and won $13.37 ($6.37 net)
BB mucked 7 9 and lost (-$7 net)

Hey, villains fold bvb is 52%, 3b is 10%. Against me he 3bets the same as overall so far.
Fold to cb ip 54/41/51.

On flop its almost vbet.
On turn I thought it would be loosing bet cause I think he wont float flop with hands like QsXx, which means I have fold equity only on gutshots and few combinations of 3rd pairs, he probably wont fold king on turn, so I decided to check, I guess Id x/f, cause his betting range would too strong and Id have weak implied odds.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Flop bet is good here. Especially true if villain folds 54% to cbets in this particular situation also, it's considerably too high etc.

I don't think it's a big deal to go ahead and 3-barrel on this board runout. Unless he's protecting his proflop range he's going to be somewhat capped to weak Ax or miracle 2x hands. Plus if the fold to cbet numbers are accurate for this specific situation we can make instant profit on every street.


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cantunho
Joined: 09.07.2014

can you explain me why we can make instant profit every street? i would like to know how to calculate that.


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

do you have 110k hands on villain? data-mining/buying hands?


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Originally posted by Kruppe
do you have 110k hands on villain? data-mining/buying hands?

it looks like :)
I never collected so many hands on one villian. I think my maximum is 14k hands on a villian, but I play only 30k hands in a month in average.

Is it allowed to do that? also how much does it cost, and where can it be bought? It is for sure great advantage having so detailed stats.


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

well, i believe it's against the rules of most poker sites, but even if it's not, it's quite un-fair imo


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

I think that also holdem manager and pokertrackers are similarly unfair. Also software that is searching tables with fish. Imo any kind of additional software should be banned. In the end, also playing poker by following strategy and winning vs fish is unfair.


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Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

no


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by cantunho
can you explain me why we can make instant profit every street? i would like to know how to calculate that.

I'm purely looking at his fold to cbet on each street in 3b pots. If we make a 1/2 pot sized bet and he folds more than 33% we are likely making instant profit.

Regarding data-mining. Unethical, probably. But then again, maybe so is using a HUD. The bottom line is that it's legal and other guys are doing it. So if you don't do it you are potentially putting yourself at a disadvantage vs the better regs.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

CAn somebody please tell, where to buy such hands, how much does it cost? I think I heard before that you need a very good computer for that, if you want your hud to work?


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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

If you would like to buy some hand histories you can just write in google: hand history or something like that and Im sure you will know what to do next.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Originally posted by sandraardnas
If you would like to buy some hand histories you can just write in google: hand history or something like that and Im sure you will know what to do next.

I know to google myself, I thought maybe you know some good deals, or some bad deals.


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