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[Closed] Turn brings 20 outs, call this bet?

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Should I call the turn with so many outs?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (74616)
UTG+1 (17404)
MP1 (19007)
MP2 (23121)
CO (31165)
BTN (39910)
SB (31690)
Hero (BB) (27392)

Blinds: 400/800 Ante 50

Pre-flop: (1,600, 8 players) Hero is BB 9♦ J♦
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 800 (16,604), 4 folds, SB calls 400 (30,890), Hero checks (26,593)

Flop: K♦ 9♣ 7♦ (3,208, 3 players)
SB checks 14 (30,876), Hero bets 2,100 (24,493), UTG+1 raises to 4,200 (12,404), SB folds (30,862), Hero calls 2,100 (22,393)

Turn: T♥ (11,643, 2 players)
Hero checks (22,393), UTG+1 bets 12,354 (50), Hero (22,393)?


6 replies
chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
Elite Grinder

check/raise the flop or bet/raise the flop. what are the stack sizes? your hand is so damn strong on the flop.

as played if we have fold equity, shove the turn. if that bet was all-in, then i'd call.


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008
Oldschool Grinder

@chenny I don't think I like check/raise in a 3way pot.. utg ain't going to take stab at it often enough...

So I go for bet/raise since well our hand is crushing anything... So just get it into the middle on the flop... if he has you beat and you don't draw him out... well we got unlucky :(

for turn analyzes we kinda need stack sizes... do you have any implied odds making that call?... is he shortstacked and should you maybe just shove it in their if you have some Fold equity?

So update the stack sizes and I'll take a look at this thread again :P


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Stack sizes are in the brackets all the way through the hand. UTG was allin on the turn, I covered him by 10k more or less.

Equity and fold equity are new concepts to me, I have heard them before but haven't yet learned anything about equities. I have just turned silver, are there any articles covering this?


your getting 2-1 to call but some of your outs may not be live but you still have 12bb if you call and you got to take few risk in these tourneys & will call

would prefer raise preflop as you know more about where you are out of position around 4K , + raise bit more on flop with three players in it

dont know what the buy-ins are but on higher levels they play As this way


Originally posted by clicks
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Equity and fold equity are new concepts to me, I have heard them before but haven't yet learned anything about equities.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/glossary/Equity


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Hmmm, that explanation doesn't give enough infos for making any calculations. It pretty much says to get all your money-in in a spot like this.

So, I should have been raising pf, check/raising or bet/raising the flop and shoving the turn?

Buy-in was freeroll


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