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NL20 SH Speed K8s, SB vs BTN

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $20.43 (102.2 bb)
BB: $20.40 (102 bb)
UTG: $19.85 (99.3 bb)
MP: $20 (100 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $21.34 (106.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, BB folds, BTN calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.80) 6 6 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.80) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero raises to $16.63 and is all-in, BTN calls $9.63

Preflop: Decided to 3bet bluff. It's my standard play with this hand vs BTN.

Flop: Hit the FD and two overs. I could check/call or bet. I like betting more because will have a fold equiy against AK-AJ and KQ.

Turn: At this point I think he has overpairs mostly, something like TT+ (probably JJ-TT, because KK+ is 4betting preflop in most cases) and I don't expect to have a fold equity. I don't like an option of check/calling because I would somehow face up my hand and probably won't get much value on the river if hit. So, I decided to check/raise and put maximal pressure on TT+. The problem is that he has very good odds to call with those, so I'm not sure how much fold equity do I have.

BTN: 26/22/36/57(7)/31/20(5)/2,9/1,3k (VPIP/PFR/BTN_RFI/BTN_Ft3B(*)/IP_FLopFoldVsCbet/IP_TurnFoldVsCbet(*)/AF/H)
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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Do you not warry that both your draws are not to nuts with the pair on board?


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

If you consider your king an out, which I think it often is because his range is likely capped at QQ, you have direct odds to call the turn. I very much doubt he has a made full house with that sizing.

Given that, it doesn't matter if we never get paid on a heart/4/9 river because a call is inherently profitable against his range.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
Do you not warry that both your draws are not to nuts with the pair on board?

I do worry because of possible A-high flushdraws a bit, but it's really not that probable. Also, does he call 55 or 76s preflop? I wouldn't be sure.


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

Do you have calling range from SB in this situation with this BU and BB?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Why do we x/r then?


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fauxreal
Joined: 18.07.2014

Villain's FoldToCbetIP is 31% so he's going to float pretty often here with broadway hands as this flop doesn't hit your range too hard. It also seems logical for him to take a stab at the pot after you check turn representing AK-AQ or other broadways.

So I like the check raise, sometimes he'll find the fold with 99-JJ, will definitely fold A high hands that actually have decent equity against us. Worst case scenario he turns up aces and you still have 30% equity.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Well, worst case scenario he turns up 77 and you have 0% equity but I see your point.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

His stab is close to pot betting, I dont see FE against anything here.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

everything that calls us preflop is goin to call otf (not much fe there neither), so we have to fire ott..and that is maybe the problem here i guess, flop play ...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Do you not warry that both your draws are not to nuts with the pair on board?

I do worry because of possible A-high flushdraws a bit, but it's really not that probable. Also, does he call 55 or 76s preflop? I wouldn't be sure.

Why don't we cbet turn then?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
Do you not warry that both your draws are not to nuts with the pair on board?

I do worry because of possible A-high flushdraws a bit, but it's really not that probable. Also, does he call 55 or 76s preflop? I wouldn't be sure.

Why don't we cbet turn then?

Because I didn't think that JJ+ will fold and this way I figured that would have a bigger fold equity against it. Also, if he has something like AJ-AQ, he might stab and I will definitelly fold out this. + I'm happy if he checks back. Although, I should probably look at his sizing because I like SeagalSteven's point.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The size is big and our push is not creating fe.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

why the hell does he pot here
don't think I've seen a bluff PSB into fold here ever at micros, prolly call and donk shove when we hit flush, cc a Kx

I'd personally 2 barrel to check fold river with this combo. Plenty of outs on the turn, doubt we fold out much if we cr, we should get raised OTT like never. And on rag river...well we block Kx 8/X 88 so at first glance seems like we shold have better bet bet shove combos


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metza
Joined: 28.01.2012

I feel like this is mandatory barrel OTT here, and jam so many rivers, unless the guy is station in 3bp I feel like we can ship

any heart
4,8,9,Q,K,A

As for preflop imo this is a poor 3b choice vs a guy of this stats, you will get into way too many domination spots and I feel like a hand such as T6s will perform better as a 3b, I'd just fold K8s


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