3B bluffing off after turn check

Originally posted by mattyvx
pre : standard for me to 3bet this vs MP and start calling @ 78s

You certainly need to remind yourself what is the point of raising in poker.

PF personally I´m calling but I don´t mind 3bet. Agree with flop x/b since the board hit his range quite good. After his T check I agree that would expect some Qx as best and we can try to barrel him out on turn and river.

Originally posted by BerezovayaYou certainly need to remind yourself what is the point of raising in poker.

please explain why it's not correct for me to use this as a 3bet bluff as a polarized strategy being the worst SC i'm not calling?

I prefer calling preflop but if you have explored and constructed your ranges so, you can 3 bet.
Flop is a check. Turn , if the board was not paired I would check too. But as people get scared on paired boards I think we can barrel.

As they are highly speculative hands, you should only play suited connectors when you expect to get paid off big when you do hit your straight or flush. At the same time, you don't want to spend too much money just to see the flop.

Originally posted by Berezovaya
As they are highly speculative hands, you should only play suited connectors when you expect to get paid off big when you do hit your straight or flush. At the same time, you don't want to spend too much money just to see the flop.

For this exact reason I chose NOT to call it 3bet it to give a marginal hand additional expectation by adding fold equity

Having a 3bet range of like 2% QQ+,AK its a much bigger mistake than using this hand unless you are using the worst broadway hands with blockers to 3bet like AJo,KQo for example. Then it's the debate about if we prefer hands that risk domination but have high cards against PP's vs hands that have better playability postflop and allow us to stay aggressive.

This debate is eternal. The decision is very personal and depends on how every player feels comfortable.

I strongly preffer to folding preffer to fold it pre unless I have good reads that villain is calling a lot of 3 bets and fit or fold post flop, but as few people say "IF WON IT's WELL PLAYED"

People who are saying fold it please tell me your 3betting ajo / kqo as your bluffs if your not using these hands? So many people still at 25 just 3betting like 2%

I am not saying that 3bet is wrong here , I am just saying that that when you have 2 hands of informations it's not enough for let's call it 'fancy plays' , against reg for who I have valuable sample of hands I like to make the plays but against unknown I am trying to avoid that, not because it's wrong , but because I am trying to avoid tough spots even if it costs little bit of my winrate but from another side might lead me to make serious mistakes

Originally posted by mattyvx
People who are saying fold it please tell me your 3betting ajo / kqo as your bluffs if your not using these hands? So many people still at 25 just 3betting like 2%

My 3bet stat at 100 is 9%. If were talkin' about polarized range, I often 4bet with KTo or AJo. No offence, your just missing the point.

Many players have AJo/ATo and KQo/KJo/KTo in this spot.
My 3 bet is close to 10.

3bet pre is fine.

I dont like the Turn bet. For me that hand is still a check Turn, bet River.

I don't like betting versus unknown without equity.

Originally posted by Berezovaya
My 3bet stat at 100 is 9%. If were talkin' about polarized range, I often 4bet with KTo or AJo. No offence, your just missing the point.

not missing the point, it's either we use hands with blockers like AJ, KQo / KJo to 3bet bluff here or some suited hands - From your comment about not liking the 67s I assume you must be using the unsuited broadways to 3bet bluff which is also reasonable