Overcards and GS IP MW – Page 2

Lathdari · 2015-10-31T10:03:53Z

Firstly, vs a UTG OR from an unknown player, should I be folding this PF? Secondly, OTF, after both villains check to me I think it worth making a semi-bluff. I'm very unlikely to be ahead as it stands, so if I could fold the villains that would be great, but I also have a chance to improve if I get called (and obviously I fold to a raise). But given that I'm IP and my overs often won't be good, would I be better taking a free card? OTT, I think villain will rarely fold to a further bet on that blank turn, so I check behind. OTR, I now have TP, but I'm losing to AK. It's an obvious bluff card for villain, so I call him. In retrospect, this seems like an error, as I'm relying on villain either having AQ in his PF range or playing TT this way. But maybe one or other of those is happening often enough for this to work? Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players BTN: $10.00 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 8, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 159 SB: $10.03 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 1.4, Hands: 201 BB: $5.68 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 13 UTG: $10.00 - VPIP: 7, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 14 UTG+1: $11.04 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 0.8, Hands: 110 UTG+2: $6.80 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 14, 3B: 10, AF: 1.5, Hands: 108 MP1: $10.21 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 8, 3B: 1, AF: 1.6, Hands: 171 MP2: $10.55 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 326 Hero (CO): $11.02 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 7, AF: 2.9, Hands: 13465 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q :spade: K :club: UTG raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.95) 9 :diamond: J :club: 4 :spade: (3 players) BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB folds, UTG calls $0.45 Turn: ($1.85) 2 :heart: (2 players) UTG checks, Hero checks River: ($1.85) K :heart: (2 players)

YohanN7

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14.11.2015, 11:50 0

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by YohanN7
We can take down small pots of course.
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That is another reason we should not just call pre.

I don't condemn any play, fold, call, or raise. Each to his own and adjusted to ones own skills and style.

The raise is designed to take down a preflop pot of, say, 4.5 bb by investing, say, 9bb. The call is designed to put you in a position to play good poker postflop for an investment of 3bb. The fold is primarily designed to keep us out of trouble postflop. All of these are acceptable. My preference is to call, mostly because of the fish. I'd perhaps call without fish as well if I am in a good mood. Playing against übertight ranges in position is very easy. Playing OOP, knowing that the opponent (who plays illegally many holdings on the button) knows I have AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TTAK/AQ/AJs or whatever, is not easy, especially on low boards.

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nitrol

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14.11.2015, 12:28 0

Noone is underestimating anything here.
I said my reasons. For me calling is the worst we can do here. But who am I to tell you...

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nitrol

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14.11.2015, 12:30 0

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by YohanN7
We can take down small pots of course.
.

That is another reason we should not just call pre.

I don't condemn any play, fold, call, or raise. Each to his own and adjusted to ones own skills and style.

The raise is designed to take down a preflop pot of, say, 4.5 bb by investing, say, 9bb. The call is designed to put you in a position to play good poker postflop for an investment of 3bb. The fold is primarily designed to keep us out of trouble postflop. All of these are acceptable. My preference is to call, mostly because of the fish. I'd perhaps call without fish as well if I am in a good mood. Playing against übertight ranges in position is very easy. Playing OOP, knowing that the opponent (who plays illegally many holdings on the button) knows I have AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TTAK/AQ/AJs or whatever, is not easy, especially on low boards.

I understand that you want to be in the pot with the fish. But still I do not like to play mw esp vs utg with this hand. That's all. And I fo not say I am right, just my opinion.

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