65s gets unwanted action on the river

Originally posted by YohanN7
Don't be one of those "They always have it here guys". You'd be the most exploitable player ever.

this is some of the worst advice you are going to get in general, especially for river play, and especially for this spot where villain goes XC XC before XRing.

when someone raises the river even on nl100 they almost always have it, period. then again, "it" in this spot can be AK or Q5s so this is a pretty trivial call. if he jams it's just a fold; again, we don't need to call enough to be unexploitable in this spot and attempting to do so is just massive spew. i would call with quads and nothing else

Originally posted by MJPerry
I think a flop bet is in order

think harder and if u still want to bet, what sizing? i hope not over 1/3 pot.
always checking or a mixed strategy of checking most of the time and betting sometimes (80/20 or something) probably beats the hell out of always betting.

Originally posted by MJPerry
it's also the sort of board a lot of regs like to get funky on.

this statement coupled with the fact that u play nl20 makes me think u are leveling the fuck out of yourself. never played on ipoker though, maybe ur idea holds a bit more truth on that network, but i seriously doubt it.

I will start even earlier - I will make a bigger preflop raise.
Flop cbet is ok.

Here's another thought experiment for us in a spot that's quite tough to read: is randomdonk just a socially-inept autist or is he actually intending to come across like a smug and patronising cunt?

Originally posted by MJPerry

Originally posted by inceptioner

Originally posted by MJPerry
Anyway, lads, can we just end the thread now? We're all agreed that it's either a hilariously easy call or a fairly easy call. End of.

Yes. I could never fold this hand on the river. I'm just asking if we could do it and the answer is apparently no way in hell. It doesn't matter what the villain had this time, but there's always people who want to know. He had AA.

Good job villain is a fish and got the absolute minimum value out of a boat-over-boat situation.

Totally truth. Zeebo's Theorem applies here.

About this hand, I could not even think the fold button exist in given situation. I can not be shoving over, but folding is out of question.

Originally posted by MJPerry
Here's another thought experiment for us in a spot that's quite tough to read: is randomdonk just a socially-inept autist or is he actually intending to come across like a smug and patronising cunt?

guess u're one of those guys that prefer bad/mediocre advice in pretty wording rather than good honest advice with no sugar coating. i wish u the best of luck sorry if for some reason i offended u though!

Lack of sugar coating is grand; condescending is not. Whatever though I guess English isn't your first language and it's only the internet. All is forgiven.

it isn't, actually had to google "patronizing" and "condescending" and i think u got a little too sensitive tbh. i guess it was because of the last part about u playing 20nl? i had 0 intention to belittle u or something, what i meant is that on nl20 most people are VERY straight forward, more so on Axx, and since ur perception seems to be the opposite, u're probably making some decently big mistakes. i wouldn't say betting AA here always is a big mistake, but it's almost certainly suboptimal.

Originally posted by randomdonk

Originally posted by YohanN7
Don't be one of those "They always have it here guys". You'd be the most exploitable player ever.

this is some of the worst advice you are going to get in general, especially for river play, and especially for this spot where villain goes XC XC before XRing.

when someone raises the river even on nl100 they almost always have it, period. then again, "it" in this spot can be AK or Q5s so this is a pretty trivial call. if he jams it's just a fold; again, we don't need to call enough to be unexploitable in this spot and attempting to do so is just massive spew. i would call with quads and nothing else

Lol, a "they always have it here guy