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Erniastukas
Joined: 14.03.2011

Should I have shoved preflop?

Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $52.38 (261.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.30 (101.5 bb)
MP: $28.90 (144.5 bb)
CO: $42.24 (211.2 bb)
BTN: $21.54 (107.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.90) 5 9 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: ($8.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, BTN raises to $17.34 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.90

River: ($40.70) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$40.70 pot ($0.60 rake)
Final Board: 5 9 2 2 K
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$20.30 net)
BTN showed Q Q and won $40.10 ($19.80 net)


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Shoving pre is turning your hand into a total bluff. So no.

I'm folding the flop as played. The preflop 3bet-call to the small 4bet are fine :)

When you got to the turn what story are you trying to tell with the call-donk line? That the two improved you (it did but not in a way that can scare an overpair).

You wouldn't call-donk here with JJ or similar either. So even AKo might be confused into calling as the only logical story you are telling is the exact one you hold.

Best to passive this spot and hope he bets very weak again to give you great odds. I think youd have got your draw here for $3 tops. That is $13.10 youd have saved.

Mind you if he makes a serious sized bet just fold. No point chasing a flush oop with poor implieds and huge negative implieds on the Kc.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Final point - and i cant confirm without equilab as im at work - I suspect you didnt have enough equity against the villain's shove range to call the $11.90.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Shoving is a bit optimistic.
We can fold on flop.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't like shoving here so much. Calling should be fine. Maybe you could fold already OTF?


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krasops
Joined: 02.02.2014

Pre wp....
Fold flop in this size is generaly bad.... float 100%..unless he is 17/11 4bet range: 1% type (no more much of them at least @ stars )...

On turn we must create ranges of x/calling in general, x/fold , x/shoving, or in some cases shove donking.... u have to think many variables such us history, perceived image, board texture, size he is using etc..

As played i like ur thinking but u picked wrong leading size and bad turn card...

As played it's insta fold on turn


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Personally, I'm not a fan of AQ, even if it's suited. I like the 3bet in this particular spot though, but once he 4bet I would have folded immediately. If that wasn't enough, the huge raise on the turn should have been enough for you to fold, even with your flush draw. In my opinion, you played this hand very poorly.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, turn call was poor. Do not have enough odds.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by MrPink578
Personally, I'm not a fan of AQ, even if it's suited. I like the 3bet in this particular spot though, but once he 4bet I would have folded immediately. If that wasn't enough, the huge raise on the turn should have been enough for you to fold, even with your flush draw. In my opinion, you played this hand very poorly.

Folding AQs faced with mini raise in blind war equals huge wastage in the long run.

You could give up otf


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Erniastukas
Joined: 14.03.2011

Thanks. Lots to think about and implement in my game.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Keep posting hands. You will see that you improve if you do not post one and the same spot several times. :)


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