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A9s - SBvsCO - 3bet Pot - Cbet or not?

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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $17.28 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (SB): $45.72
BB: $25.00 (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
UTG: $30.64 (VPIP: 26.50, PFR: 21.37, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 121)
MP: $26.81 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
CO: $34.93 (VPIP: 13.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 80)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A♥ 9♥

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) K♦ Q♥ 3♠

Villain is a reg. No further stats, just a few hands on him.

In this hand I was asking myself if we should cbet or not. To get some help I asked Poker Ranger. It showed me that if:

Hero's 3betting Range in this spot vs unknown is:
TT+,ATs+,A2s-A5s,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,AJo+,KQo

And Villain's default calling range:
77-JJ,A9s-AQs,KJs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,AQo,AhJc,AsJh,AsJc,AcJh,AcJs,KhQs,KhQc,KsQh,KsQc,KcQh,KcQs,AhJs

We are actually favoring this specific flop texture with about 58% Equity (Range vs. Range)

--> Conclusion: We should cbet more than checking.

Now, the only Cards we can really barrell on are any :heart: - an Ace is already a bit tainted by AJ/AT type of hands. I'm not a big fan of one-and-done cbetting, but what do you guys think? Would you exploitatively cbet this flop to take it down, or would you check and e.g. go for a delayed cbet turn and river vs. Qx and worse?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think cbetting this should be fine. Is this a standard 3bet for you pre?


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

More or less. Mostly yes, sometimes no


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You 3b as a bluff?
If so, no cbet on this board.


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I would cbet this also. You are a little bit on deep with CO so he may have much more pp-s than he would have with 100bb. You can make them fold otf and also maybe some Axs and sc can fold. Which otherwise imo would bet otf if you check


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I'm not sure his calling range would be about described below. Also, your opponent is nitty - 13/12 and If he was folding preflop enough for your bluff 3b (I'm not sure bcs of the only 80 hands selection), why do we need to barrel and burn money? Why do you think your opponent will 4b with AK? He is in position, so there is not need to 4b for him preflop (I'm nit :f_biggrin: )


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

AK is a default 4b from these positions.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

I probably put AK into my callingrange being > 130bb deep since I don't wanna stack off (worse price if he shoves, is he calling worse to a 4bet?, what if he 5bets?).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Well this helps the thesis of not cbetting.


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msnek
Joined: 01.10.2008

What fold to 3bet does he have ? What %RFI he got on CO ? Ok, 80 hands is not that much, but still ...

If our 3bet pre aims to be autoprofit bluff preflop .. we dont have to cbet here imho.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

i dont think it is good to cbet vs 13/12 guy, if we somehow decide, should underdbet be ok here, and proceed on a heart?


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