ATs from EP

You are playing on the flop against 2 villains. So I would pretty much never Cbet here with only 1 over card. It’s to likely 1 of them will call and it will cost you too much chips on the long run I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Flop is dry enough to cbet, but vs 2 Im always c/folding OTT.

That’s interesting. What do you thing both players will fold on the flop?
Beware that both players are most likely passive players.

Originally posted by SDK1987
That’s interesting. What do you thing both players will fold on the flop?
Beware that both players are most likely passive players.

As they seem very calling stations pre their range OTF is prop wide and do not necessarily hit this board. So even if they fold hands like J8 or 98 for example you are making money.

Its situations like this in these kind of tournys that is starting to make me think I am just better off folding these kind of hands pre from EP.
Can hands like AT, AJ be played profitably from EP if I assume I always get 2 or more callers?

Originally posted by slippyjim
Its situations like this in these kind of tournys that is starting to make me think I am just better off folding these kind of hands pre from EP.
Can hands like AT, AJ be played profitably from EP if I assume I always get 2 or more callers?

^^^ I like line of thinking. My thought is UTG wether passive or not, early in the tourney, I'll give him respect & watch. Fold specially early position. As played check & fold on the turn. Spewing on a loose passive station hard to bluff off hand. Just my thoughts.

My bottom range from EP here in this mtts would be ATs+, AJo+, 77+ and some suited broadways.

The iso is fine, but on flop against passive players is fine to check/fold unless we have info that these players play hit or miss postflop.

For future I would recommend folding ATo, AJo, KQo, KJo type of hands preflop frop EP at any stack depth. These hands play terribly in multiway pots and will be losing money long-term. And these days after opening in EP you are likely to have a multiway pot, because after at least one call you will see BB joining in very often.

Hands like ATo, AJo, KJo, KQo, make very good one pair hands, and one pair hands are only good in HU pots. Top pair in a multiway pot by the river in most cases is second best hand.

EDIT: I meant to say one pair hands, not top pair hands.

Next time I play tonight, I'm going to play much tighter from EP especially if I see several loose callers behind me, which on 888.es is pretty much guaranteed haha, and see how it works out for me