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Flush Draw vs Maniac

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Artsboy
Joined: 18.01.2010

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG elginetegris ($1.77) 89bb
CO argamekon ($1.03) 52bb
BTN gabiklg ($1.72) 86bb
SB almacata ($1.79) 90bb
BB Hero ($2.37) 119bb
Pre-Flop: (0.03, 5 players) Hero is BB 5♥: Q♥:

3 folds, almacata calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.08, almacata calls $0.06

Flop: A♥: 6♣: 7♥: ($0.16, 2 players)
almacata bets $0.14, Hero folds
Final Pot: $0.30
almacata wins $0.29 (net +$0.07)
Hero lost $0.08

I do not use stats, but opponent had been playing like a maniac, overbetting and reraising the whole time.

Preflop I thought limping the SB was a weak move, so I tried ROL. After that did not work out, I wonder if it's worth it to go AI with FD or maybe wait for a better spot?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You cannot fold a FD on flop...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I agree with that.
I would call.


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KatalonacX
Joined: 22.11.2013

Call flop. Preflop check, weak hand for izo.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I believe 5Qs is just check preflop. Flop is a call, don´t forget we are in position, so we should feel pretty comfortable, at least OTF.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by Mozzek
I believe 5Qs is just check preflop.

I agree with that too. You said villain is a maniac. I see no reason to raise and make the pot bigger with this hand.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Agree with the check. We close the action preflop.


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Artsboy
Joined: 18.01.2010

This was the first hand I posted here and I see already 7 replies, thank you so much to everyone!

I can see why check preflop makes sense, Q5s is not very strong for raise over limper against maniac.

About the flop action I am a more confused though. I have 9 outs to complete my FD, which makes it about 20% probabilities to complete the project on the turn. Opponent bets 0,14 into a 0,16 pot, so I have to call 0,14 to win 0,44. That's roughly 33% chances, so not enough based on 20% pot odds.

I guess you guys advise me to make the call based on implicit pot odds?

Is there any situation you consider folding with FD on the flop, maybe when opponent overbets by a lot?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

It is true that you need roughly 33%. But I would say you have very good implied odds. You have to make only 0.2$ more on later streets if you hit.

Also, I would say that in reality you have more equity. We don't know if villain is going to bet the turn. By the river you will hit your flush with almost 40% equity. You also have a backdoor straight draw, so any 4 or 8 gives you extra outs. Villain can be donking with mid strength hands (like mid pocket pairs), so any Q might be an out too. If villain has the ace and you hit 5 or Q OTT, you will have 5 more outs to hit 2 pair or set.

So you can call the flop because you have great implied odds and because any heart,Q,8,5 or 4 will improve your hand.

You can consider folding if villain overbets big.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The call here is based on the direst odds+implied odds.
You have a FD+BDSD this is enough to call and see the turn.


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Artsboy
Joined: 18.01.2010

Great, thanks a lot guys, learned a lot from this hand.


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