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[Closed] NL200FR: T9s flushdraw+gutshot

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP1$210,60:834/17/15/2,5/32/45/72/50;Hero$501,75:///////;[/tg]
1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with T♦, 9♦
UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $6,00, 2 folds, Hero calls $6,00, 3 folds.

Flop: ($15,00) 8♠, 6♦, 5♦ (2 players)
MP1 bets $12,00, Hero raises to $36,00, MP1 raises to $80,00, Hero raises to $495,75 (All-In), MP1 calls $124,60 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

Turn: ($424,20) 2♣
River: ($424,20) J♣ (2 players)

Final Pot: $424,20

Should have folded after his 3-bet (seeing that he will not fold) or should have called after his 3-bet(do I have any implied odds then?). Against overpair I'm 47:53 underdog.


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TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

its a monsterdraw, so nh.. just to prove it should be +ev:

he has very good inclinations tow cs, and deffo very lag, so he is reshoving there with some FD+overs,77, 78, 76, 65, ofc sets or overp..

vs this whole range u re abt 45-55 (equilator)

at the point u have to make your decision (his rereaise) u have to put 192,60 (210,6-6-12) of his remainder to the total of what would be 424,6 (210.6*2+3) = > 192,6/424,6 = 0.45

ok.. it s very close.. but maybe he does it also with 89? dont know what to add.. if it s this close i d like to call and get info abt his lines, bcs mathematically u re deffo not doing much of a mistake if any..

edit> ofc i was in a rush, forgot abt fold eq.. so deffo +ev.. but what TwiceT is writing sounds even more appealing..


TwiceT
Joined: 15.07.2007

- you have pos on a board where the pfa cant really play turn and river w/ overpairs, if he already has a set and u hit on later streets u will get paid.
- i would often flat on the flop to float and often also float the turn as well
- u can rep any: :diamond: any 4,7,8,9,T on the turn and even more cards on the river.
- if you dont have to balance vs this opp. u can always shove/overbet an ugly (ugly for pfa) turn or river as bluff (also if a 9 or T hits its a bluff most of the time) and vbet if u make your hand (actually it depends on situation and opp. whether u should vbet or shove as bluff or for value ... )

edit: of course, raise/calling the flop is always + EV because he will fold all his air/marginal hands and against his strong hand range u have a flip with the dead money. but since we always try to play the most +EV line, i think we should use position here and make this spot more +EV.


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Originally posted by TwiceT
- you have pos on a board where the pfa cant really play turn and river w/ overpairs, if he already has a set and u hit on later streets u will get paid.
- i would often flat on the flop to float and often also float the turn as well
- u can rep any: :diamond: any 4,7,8,9,T on the turn and even more cards on the river.
- if you dont have to balance vs this opp. u can always shove/overbet an ugly (ugly for pfa) turn or river as bluff (also if a 9 or T hits its a bluff most of the time) and vbet if u make your hand (actually it depends on situation and opp. whether u should vbet or shove as bluff or for value ... )

edit: of course, raise/calling the flop is always + EV because he will fold all his air/marginal hands and against his strong hand range u have a flip with the dead money. but since we always try to play the most +EV line, i think we should use position here and make this spot more +EV.

this

If he is capable of folding an overpair( somewhere along the way) if we raise , I prefer the raise though.

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


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