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Calling with Trips after flush completes on the Turn and villain shoves

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Spidey1978
Joined: 25.07.2007

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

SB: $0.89 (44.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.45 (122.5 bb)
CO: $2.32 (116 bb)
BTN: $3.27 (163.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦: Q♠:
CO raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.04

Would I have been better to Iso raise here (or even fold?) - OOP and multi-way?

Flop: ($0.24) Q♦: Q♥: 7♥: (4 players)
SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.18
With my Trip Qs here I decide not to be shy and bet (especially with the flush draw and multiple opponents) - was my bet-sizing okay after min raise and multiway?

Turn: ($0.84) 3♥: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.54, BTN raises to $3.01, SB folds, Hero calls $1.65 and is all-in

I continued to show aggression here, even though the flush completes - of course as soon as BTN shoves I assume he has the flush but am I okay to call with a number of outs (10? - 3x aces, 1x queen, 3x 7s, 3x 3s?) to FH? I did, but was I right to?

River: ($5.22) T♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Sadly - no pairing of the board.

Results:

Spoiler

$5.22 pot ($0.18 rake)
Final Board: Q♦: Q♥: 7♥: 3♥: T♦:
SB mucked and lost (-$0.26 net)
Hero showed A♦: Q♠: and lost (-$2.45 net)
BTN showed 9♥: T♥: and won $5.04 ($2.59 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You have indeed 10 of 46 outs to win this hand most likely and you have 21,74% change to hit a FH or better. In this case you need to call $1,65 to win a total pot of $5,22 and that means you need 31,6% equity to call here. This time you needed to fold this hand if you are sure you always against a flush in a spot like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Spidey1978
Joined: 25.07.2007

Okay - thanks for the analysis - still getting my math on a bit.

Cheers again.


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zednik44
Joined: 17.08.2017

Can you elaborate on this math slightly ? I don't completely follow. How do we know hero needs 31%?


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insomnia666
Joined: 31.07.2010

pre:
call minus 30-50bb / 100 hands
fold -100/100 obv
Squeeze +300-400/100

The raise on the flop is too large. Give a chance to some hands to call, pp for example. With bet on the flop you know already what to do vs shove. If you want to fold, then bet small. If you want to call, bet larger. I know how this looks. Simple and annoying. But in this situation fold is a mistake,the call also is a mistake . If you know what I mean.
Check on the turn is not a bad option.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by zednik44
Can you elaborate on this math slightly ? I don't completely follow. How do we know hero needs 31%?

Basically the formula is bet/(pot+bet)

Here villain raised so the "bet" is the amount we have to call -> 1.65
Pot is the pot OTT + hero's bet + villains raise -> 3.57 (you have to notice that villain is deeper than hero, he shoves to 3.01 but it only counts as 2.19)

So the formula would be 1.65/(3.57+1.65) = 0.31 = 31%


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TheMoment
Joined: 16.12.2011

Noone pointed that out, but I think 3beting AQo is more profitable with this type of preflop action


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insomnia666
Joined: 31.07.2010

I did


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