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Zoom, KQs, is it safe to VB now?

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

You would think this is safe spot but I get CR or CRAI often and always go "What?"

Thoughts?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 53.72 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
SB: 363.88 BB (VPIP: 28.83, PFR: 22.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.18, Hands: 560)
BB: 201.88 BB (VPIP: 21.08, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.33, Hands: 402)
UTG: 115.72 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.59, 3Bet Preflop: 1.52, Hands: 507)
MP: 102.64 BB (VPIP: 13.51, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 116)
Hero (CO): 115.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♥ Q♥

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 5♦ 4♥ 7♥
SB checks, Hero bets 3.64 BB, SB raises to 10.64 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (28.28 BB, 2 players) 9♠
SB bets 13.52 BB, Hero calls 13.52 BB

River: (55.32 BB, 2 players) Q♣
SB checks, Hero bets 29.04 BB


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

SB probably has all the sets in his ranges and you have alot of missed draws when getting on the river.
So i can see him x/jamming here OTR to get value from your missed draws(as you don't have alot of value hands here really)

On the flipside: SB ALSO has the missed draws in his ranges but you can't get value from this cuz it will just x/f most of the time.

Going to my conclusion: What hands do you still expect value from after this action...

IMO the bet OTR is rather thin i would happily check it down with the showdownvalue we now have.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

To get value from any pair below the Queen, not excluding QJ. I've seen players do this with something like 66 also and get sticky at the end.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

Yes some people do that SOMETIMES, doesn't mean it happens EVERYTIME.

I would rather see you valuebet a KK or AA here so that villain could've hit that Q with a random fd aswell.

The thing is, you barely have any nutted hands in your range after this action so your betting range is rather capped on the river.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

This is really tempting vs the 25pool with his turn sizing
And the fact that the pool under-uses check raise river big time
I'd still just check with the Qh, wait to get a read on him but this is not terrible or anything


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Yeah, the temptation was too much for me. :f_wink:


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