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_Anonymous_
_Anonymous_
16.04.2009, 16:17

fish, err, i mean, villain is 44/25/41/4.3(3bet)/1.7(af):

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($221.35)
Hero (MP) ($124.85)
CO ($143)
Button ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($192.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J
UTG bets $4, Hero raises to $12, 4 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($25.50) 5, 6, 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $17, UTG calls $17

Turn: ($59.50) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $38, 1 fold

Total pot: $59.50 | Rake: $2.90


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chenny8888
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16.04.2009, 16:34

nh


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veriz
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16.04.2009, 17:13

Hello,

Nice hand, well played.

Best regards,
Rensu


TribunCaesar
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Joined: 29.04.2007
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16.04.2009, 18:37

nh!

Best regards,
TribunCaesar


xylere
xylere
Joined: 28.05.2007
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16.04.2009, 21:17

nobody has even considered checking behind the turn?


TribunCaesar
TribunCaesar
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16.04.2009, 21:45

nope, I like betting turn to take the free showdown


veriz
veriz
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16.04.2009, 21:59

Also for value & protection :P


xylere
xylere
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17.04.2009, 10:34

Originally posted by TribunCaesar
nope, I like betting turn to take the free showdown

what exactly is a deal with a free showdown?

If you are not going to valuebet river anyway after a turn bet, whats the difference in showdown price then?

There are just few draws in his range, like 44 and maybe A4s sine he is a fish. Majority of his range will likely never stand a second barrel here, except for maybe few hands like A7, 77, 88, 99, TT. But these hands will also likely call a river valuebet if we check behind the turn. The point is we get only 2 streets of value from the most of his range and it seems to me its gonna be wider if we check turn, bet river. On top of that we might induce a bet on the river and even get value from some stupid hands.

And in those cases when we are happen to be behind we are basically stacking off with this line, since we will have 1/4 of the pot left on the river.


TribunCaesar
TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007
Posts: 5,548
17.04.2009, 14:44

There are a lot of combos with draws. Any 4, any pair + gut shot. Any card could make him 2 pair as well. I don't want to see a river and have to call a bet there.
Simple as that


Kruppe
Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008
Posts: 2,133
18.04.2009, 12:06

won't even a really loose fish like this fold a lot of pair+GS type hand against this turn bet?
i don't see the problem with calling a riverbet against this insane player.


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