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Pre-flop wrong play?

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Poker4life2
Joined: 17.12.2017

Deal

Shark [X, X, X, X]
FootyPlayer [X, X, X, X]
SantaClaus [X, X, X, X]
Robot [X, X, X, X]
KingArthur [X, X, X, X]
RobinHood [QH, 4S, AH, JC]
Insatsrunda 1

SantaClaus Höj till 7.00
Robot Lägg dig
KingArthur Lägg dig
RobinHood Syna 7.00
Shark Syna 7.00
FootyPlayer Syna 7.00
Flopp (bord):

[4H, AS, QS]
Sammanlagd pott 27.25
Rake: 0.75
Huvudpott: 27.25
Insatsrunda 2

Shark Passa
FootyPlayer Passa
SantaClaus Insats 20.00
RobinHood Syna 20.00
Shark Lägg dig
FootyPlayer Lägg dig
Turn (bord):

[4H, AS, QS, TC]
Sammanlagd pott 66.17
Rake: 1.83
Huvudpott: 66.17
Insatsrunda 3

SantaClaus Insats 50.00
RobinHood Syna 50.00
River (bord):

[4H, AS, QS, TC, 6H]
Sammanlagd pott 163.46
Rake: 4.54
Huvudpott: 163.46
Insatsrunda 4

SantaClaus Insats 128.00
RobinHood 128.00

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Turns out Santa had Ad Kc 6d 5c

But the question is since i don't raise preflop here I don't know if he has AAxx or sometimes maybe QQxx.

I feel like call is the right play since i have two players behind me and my hand can certainly not call a 4-bet here. But I altso feel like I'm playing in the dark here if i only call like i did.

What would be the most profitable play with this hand in you opinion. Is a fold right here since i dont get to open preflop?

Postflop and forward is okay or fold on turn?


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Lembeh
Joined: 14.12.2017

I have to start by saying that this is just my thoughts and Im not a very good omaha player so lets hope you get some more solid players opinion aswell, but this is how I think :)

How big are the blinds btw?
Imo it would prob be better to fold/3bet pre, to call and like now end up in a four way pot without intiative is usually not very profiteble and your hand dont play very well on most boards.

But if you decide to call pre you need a postflop plan for the hand, you say you put him on QQxx-AAxx, what other hand would he play like this that you beat when you only have 4s on a AsQs board? Would he play his draws this aggressive? Do he bluff when he miss the board?
Since you flat called pre you need to fold or raise him on flop to get information on his holdings. I would prefer a raise since its unlikely that he have a very good draw with AsQs on table and you are probably ahead of him atm.
If you were to call flop and see another spade on turn you would have to fold, same on river if you didnt improve.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Santa opens from UTG, which means that he should have a strong range if he is positional aware. I would just fold that hand if he is positional aware. If he's a loose cannon, then call is fine.


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