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Faye6891
Faye6891
Joined: 09.11.2007
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10.05.2009, 23:24

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

$0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$199.00:///////;MP3$104.55:///////;CO$131.40:///////;BU$190.45:///////;SB$100.00:///////;BB$100.00:///////;UTG1$230.85:///////;UTG2(Hero)$162.05:///////;MP1$201.50:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with K:d, K:s.
UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, BU raises to $11, 2 folds, Hero raises to $28, BU calls $17.00.

Flop: ($57.50) 4:c, 3:s, 8:h (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00, BU raises to $120, Hero...

Unfortunately villain is completely unknown here.

His raise is basically putting me all-in, and I need around 33% equity to push here since he's definetely calling anyway.

From my own experience, I think unknowns overplays JJ and QQ quite often here, and many aggressive players are able to make a move with AK, making it a pretty easy push, but that's when playing for 100BB stacks, for 162BB I don't know if unknowns overplay worse hands too often.

I'd like to hear your thoughts about unknowns' range here.


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Snodreliss
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10.05.2009, 23:59

Easy ship, if he slowplayes AA then NH to him..


Jaissica
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11.05.2009, 08:17

Shove it. Your flop bet was a bit small and would induce a player like me holding TT/JJ/QQ to ship into you believing you are cbetting AK or might even fold QQ-KK. Little less than half pot is venturing into scared money territory, drawless board or not, and aggressive players might think they can taste blood in the water and move in for the kill.


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Paf4488
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11.05.2009, 15:41

Originally posted by Jaissica
Shove it. Your flop bet was a bit small and would induce a player like me holding TT/JJ/QQ to ship into you believing you are cbetting AK or might even fold QQ-KK. Little less than half pot is venturing into scared money territory, drawless board or not, and aggressive players might think they can taste blood in the water and move in for the kill.

man its poker not some call of duty 4 ♦, anyways nice metaphor, brought a smile to my face ♦

and for the hand, ship it, only aces beat you, besides u made such a small cbet that now u definetly have to call because he may try some moves and go for the kill :)


TwiceT
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11.05.2009, 15:59

Originally posted by Jaissica
Little less than half pot is venturing into scared money territory, drawless board or not, and aggressive players might think they can taste blood in the water and move in for the kill.

i like ♦

i also rly like your small cbet. thats how you get 99-QQ stacked on the flop the easiest. he also might freak out w/ connectors reading u on AK.
since he rasies that big, he almost always has 99-QQ or a (semi-)bluff, hardly ever 33,44,88,AA.


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Faye6891
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11.05.2009, 16:51

Originally posted by TwiceT
i also rly like your small cbet.

That's how much I'd bet if I had AK, that's why I actually made it.

Thanks for the feedback guys! :)

For anyone who's curious, here's the rest of the hand.

...Hero raises to $134.05, BU calls $14.05.

Turn: ($325.60) 2:s (2 players)

River: ($325.60) K:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $325.60.
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows three of a kind, kings (Kd Ks)

BU shows a pair of aces (Ah As)

Hero wins with three of a kind, kings (Kd Ks).

As some would say, it's definetely rigged. But I don't mind that. ♠_biggrin:


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TwiceT
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11.05.2009, 19:05

Originally posted by Faye6891

Originally posted by TwiceT
i also rly like your small cbet.

That's how much I'd bet if I had AK, that's why I actually made it.

Thanks for the feedback guys! :)

For anyone who's curious, here's the rest of the hand.

...Hero raises to $134.05, BU calls $14.05.

Turn: ($325.60) 2:s (2 players)

River: ($325.60) K:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $325.60.
Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows three of a kind, kings (Kd Ks)

BU shows a pair of aces (Ah As)

Hero wins with three of a kind, kings (Kd Ks).

As some would say, it's definetely rigged. But I don't mind that. ♠_biggrin:

haha nice river :f_cool:
that's when u have to start some table chat action like "dont mess with the hitmachine"

its always pretty nice to get people on tilt ♠_cool:

btw: def. note how he played AA in this spot vs u and especially his flop raise size.


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Faye6891
Faye6891
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Posts: 1,234
11.05.2009, 21:08

Originally posted by TwiceT
btw: def. note how he played AA in this spot vs u and especially his flop raise size.

Wouldn't miss the chance. ♠_grin:

But I did miss the chance to try and get him on tilt... :f_frown:

BTW, nice HU video, looking forward to the next one.


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