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RemiRem
RemiRem
Joined: 27.12.2009
Posts: 79
13.10.2018, 16:41

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players

BTN: 109 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 6)
SB: 111 BB (VPIP: 12.86, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 73)
BB: 159 BB (VPIP: 19.70, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
UTG: 222 BB (VPIP: 12.95, PFR: 10.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 142)
UTG+1: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 244.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 104 BB (VPIP: 23.27, PFR: 10.06, 3Bet Preflop: 1.43, Hands: 163)
MP+2: 97 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (CO): 287 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Session is almost over, "sit out next BB pressed"..
Oh nice, KINGS !!

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 33 BB, Hero calls 22.5 BB

Preflop: He 4bet me, he must have AA, {time bank activated, makes a sweaty call.}

Flop: (67.5 BB, 2 players) T♦ T♣ T♥
MP bets 32.5 BB, Hero calls 32.5 BB

Flop: OMG WTF did i just did. Flat call a 4bet, got very good flop. But he has aces, perhaps i should fold here :/

Turn: (132.5 BB, 2 players) 8♠
MP bets 131 BB, Hero raises to 221.5 BB and is all-in, MP calls 48 BB and is all-in

Turn: Jesus f*%$ing christ, now im commited, i guess.. OK, here goes bad evening, show those ACES. {starts crying, presses raise}
Villain shows AK, Hero: omg im so awesome, i can read him like a book.
{starts crying again, omg ace is coming, omg omg}

River: (490.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦

MP shows A♠ K♣ (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows K♥ K♠ (Full House, Tens full of Kings)
(Pre 70%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 475.5 BB

Hero: pfff, easy game

{decides never play above 200BB}


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Tomaloc
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Joined: 17.01.2011
Posts: 201
13.10.2018, 16:49

don't blame you, honestly


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MyFloXyBabY
MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010
Posts: 2,090
13.10.2018, 16:52 +2

More than a deepness problem, I think it's a FR problem ;)
I'd rather say "Here is why people shouldn't play FR" :]


Chinese proverb : Give a HUD to a man, he'll exploit one day, but teach him to use a tracker... and he'll complain about his AIEV all his life :D
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zetozinho
zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017
Posts: 1,470
13.10.2018, 17:51

Originally posted by RemiRem
Preflop: He 4bet me, he must have AA

This makes no sense. This is why you called the guy instead of 5bet push? Because you're afraid he had aces and ended the session losing a big pot? Don't slowplay KK on NL2 PF.
The rest of the hand is completely standard.

Villain shows AK, Hero: omg im so awesome, i can read him like a book

Can't stop laughing at this :f_tongue:
I know the feeling.
If there's something on NL2 is players that overvalue AK hands.


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MLima1984
MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015
Posts: 306
13.10.2018, 20:17

Just go all in preflop and cry when villain's J8o hits a FH :P


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sdf256
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Joined: 21.07.2016
Posts: 202
13.10.2018, 21:29

245bb deep I wouldn’t go all in preflop with anything but AA. Also I don’t see a problem with playing fullring, it’s actually way weaker than 6max.


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VorpalF2F
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Joined: 02.09.2010
Posts: 45,199
13.10.2018, 22:23

Originally posted by MLima1984
Just go all in preflop and cry when villain's J8o hits a FH :P

J8o has no better equity than any other mid-range random hand, yet it seems to win more than its fair share of pots. Not sure why, but I think it is because it covers a range few players play, and when it hits, they never put it in your range.

Or I just notice it when it does :coolface:

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MyFloXyBabY
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Joined: 15.02.2010
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13.10.2018, 23:41

Originally posted by sdf256
Also I don’t see a problem with playing fullring, it’s actually way weaker than 6max.

Weaker maybe but nitier so there's less fun to get and less money to make.
Most people (including me), once getting used to SH, tend to hate FR. It's really worth the transition and there is more edge to be gained at SH than FR, like there is more at HU than SH but people might find HU too wild and technical.


Chinese proverb : Give a HUD to a man, he'll exploit one day, but teach him to use a tracker... and he'll complain about his AIEV all his life :D
"Si debis pedere, pedis superbe. (If you must fart, fart proudly)" VorpalF2F

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nitrol
nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
Posts: 11,244
14.10.2018, 07:37

It is ok to not go crazy preflop when 200+ deep.
What bothers me is the nearly pot bet on turn. It is not made with AKo....


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SDK1987
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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
Posts: 43,990
14.10.2018, 08:56

You can also 5bet to like 75bb-80bb and call his 6bet shove, but against a unknown that's playing aggressive so far can easy over play QQ or AK here.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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CucumbaMan
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Joined: 13.10.2017
Posts: 317
14.10.2018, 11:41

Great story bro, CG! :) I was worried reading this, but it was such a relief that you won. :f_thumbsup: :f_drink:


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