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Diffcult spot for my overpair on Turn

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diabloykiss
Joined: 19.04.2018

The momment he raises I think Set raise flop, dont see many straights so I'm a bit lost by villain play. River I guess I have to fold after continued agression. Maybe should have just paid that river 1/3 bet.

I'm betting flop for value as I also have the BD flush.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 240.8 BB (VPIP: 29.98, PFR: 23.89, 3Bet Preflop: 8.75, Hands: 435)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 132.8 BB (VPIP: 25.91, PFR: 21.04, 3Bet Preflop: 4.61, Hands: 395)
MP: 181.4 BB (VPIP: 25.15, PFR: 20.86, 3Bet Preflop: 15.52, Hands: 169)
CO: 186.2 BB (VPIP: 27.21, PFR: 21.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.91, Hands: 726)
Hero (BTN): 148.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ J♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (20.7 BB, 2 players) 6♣ 5♣ 2♣
MP checks, Hero bets 6.7 BB, MP calls 6.7 BB

Turn: (34.1 BB, 2 players) 8♦
MP checks, Hero bets 25.4 BB, MP raises to 58 BB, Hero calls 32.6 BB

River: (150.1 BB, 2 players) K♥
MP bets 50.2 BB, fold

Spoiler

MP wins 143.3 BB


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

3betting JJ vs MP is rather overplayed. I wonder what your calling range looks like, or if you haven't any it's ok.
I'm not sure I'd go for 1/3 on that flop but why not.
On the turn just fold. He isn't capped at all and your flush outs are anything but clean. Come on. There is no law that compels people to raise all their nuts on the flop. I wish there was but I keep seeing people slowplay in spots way more stupid than this one. NL10 is the stupid nit slowplaying stake, you have to deal with it. (I do badly though.)
I never understand how people can discount all the combos that beat them so easily and only these combos. I mean, if you think it's stupid to wait for the turn to raise a set or a flush (and it's already arguable), how is it less stupid and thus more likely to raise garbage ?


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OrigamiPoker
Joined: 27.10.2018

I think 3betting JJ as a mixed strategy vs mp is perfectly ok. 22-55-66 shouldn't be in villains range here and not to many flush combos. But being aware with RFI stats doesn't mean they are aware of ranges to defend vs 3bet's. So those hands might all still be in villains range. The turn feels very close but I probably play it the same way. Villain can play the turn with 99 TT like this and perhaps some Ax semi bluffs with a club. Checking the turn to pick up river bluffs is a decent option aswell and bet vs checks for value.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

3betting pre-flop seems not tha bad at a 6 max table, but the flop sizing seems weak.
You can easy bet like half pot for value and protecion.
On the turn I would give up as well and otherwise you need to play for stacks with only 73,9bb behind if you call.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

Im 3betting pre with JJ any day of the week.
Unless the villain is completely blind to bet sizes im going to cbet 1/2 por OTF, or even 2/3.

OTT is time to leave, but u may been thinking that u are FD and still have outs..but i think fold is the right thing


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