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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by Harrier88

Originally posted by Kyyberi
That would really suck to get a spin, and then end up with $500. LOL.

I don't know... I'd take that $500.

btw, guys, make sure to keep posting in this thread every 12 hours or so, just to remind everyone to play. I forgot earlier today, good thing the jackpot wasn't hit.

It's still getting higher and higher. Up to the 300k I think.


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Is The Deal really interesting ? Didn't check yet in detail about it but since i see the thread would appreciate everyone's opinion about it.Isn't that better to save the stars coins to get cash or tournament entries ?

Just Checked a little now. When it says

The Deal in the 12 hours before the jackpot is hit, you will automatically win a share of half of the jackpot!

They mean "equally" amongst "all the participant" ?
Any way to know the actual number of participant ?

Best of Skills & Luck @ Tables,
OldSchoolPapa.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

The cost of one round is 7c. Normally it goes off every now and then, and you usually get 1-2$ when someone hits the jackpot. If you play it one round every 12h, if costs you just below $1 a week. Sometimes you actually make a poker hand and win some coins, I think I saw somewhere that someone played a lot and the actual cost was around 4-5c per round.

I always play one round when I play a session, as it's +EV. To play multiple rounds, it's not.


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@Kyyberi Thanks for your patience and answer.

Is there any kind of log file with all the previous Jackpots ? Overall Participation ? Size of the jackpots ? Date & Time of when it was hit ? Asking because in most kind of lotteries they do and on Pokerstars website i don't see any log file or track of the previous jackpots infos. Unless i missed a link somewhere.

Kinds Regards,
OldSchoolPapa.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I kept track for a long time.
Look back through for some numbers.

For a jackpot this size, the payout per person will be about 5 bux.
I've in for about 150 coins so about 3 cents per coin.
Cashing them directly returns 1 cent per coin.


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@VorpalF2F You are a wise person :f_thumbsup:
Not sure if the translation in english speaks but we often say "a warned man is worth two".
I will look back in the thread to check the tracks.

Thank you VorpalF2F.
Cheers.


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Kyyberi
I think I saw somewhere that someone played a lot and the actual cost was around 4-5c per round.

The JP fee is ~2.8c, iirc. That player ran under EV, which is common because the non-JP payouts for trips or better are rare too. I've hit trips (25c prizes) twice this week, though :f_pleased:


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You can think it also this way: if you used all your coins to it, it would be -EV (as all casino stuff are). But as you get money when someone wins jackpot with the 12h rule, you can increase your EV by playing as little as possible but still keeping that 12h window active.

Reason is that there are players who use more coins than you do. If everyone played only once in 12h, your EV would go to negative.


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Also if If everyone played only once in 12h then jackpots would take much longer to fall i guess.
Don't think it would take the same amount of time and then the room would certainly remove The Deal :f_biggrin:
Like slots in a casino there is probably a condition if not few ones before the jackpot actually falls.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

That for sure, but than the jackpot would grow a much slower as well if everyone would do that.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

at the moment there are 84000 players on Pokerstars.
When I kept track, I would divide half the jackpot by the amount received, and the result was typically between 20 and 30 thousand players.

From that, it appears that somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of people play the deal at all.

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VS


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Also i think the next jackpots for X-mas & New Year will be higher. No specific Mathematical reason to think that way but a marketing one.Let's say a Half Million Jackpot or Higher JP is won during Xmas or for the New Year mmm that will be a nice story telling for Pstars.Also a good teaser to attract naive & compulsive gamblers.

Kind Regards,
OldSchoolPapa.


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Actually, there's no need to wait for the current one to drop - Stars may just add $25K-50K to the current one like they did in one of the previous Xmas seasons, iirc.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I forgot about that tonypmm.

Even as it stands now, we're getting close to a record.
The highest I recorded was 360,000 , and right now, it is 329,000

I forgot to play this morning, and played 45 minutes late -- 'twould be a shame to have it fall just a few minutes after the 12-hour window ended.

<Vorpal sets a reminder on his phone>

There, that should fix it!
VS


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Wiesel3
Joined: 26.12.2016

VorpalF2F: Highest JP was 547.437 USD on Jan. 29th 2017 01:15 MEZ - so a way to go still.
Good luck to all and Merry Christmas!


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

The JP size follows a Poisson jump process ('has no memory'), and its expected size at the hitting time always equals the current size plus ~136K (in our case, it's thus over 470K) unless Stars adds money to it.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Picked up trips this morning which covers 3 plays -- so ROI improves a bit...

Cheers,
VS


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Tichwich85
Joined: 14.04.2012

Started quite late in, at 300k, normally at 200k+ but forgot about it...exciting times


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Not to bad, because the jackpot is still getting higher with 360k at the end of the day if he don't bust.


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RocknRollAd
Joined: 18.08.2011

392k


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