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99 on QJ9r in a 4-way pot, go all in on flop?

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TheMemeDream
Joined: 12.01.2019

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $2.01 (100.5 bb)
BB: $2.18 (109 bb)
UTG: $2.34 (117 bb)
MP: $1.70 (85 bb)
CO: $4.11 (205.5 bb)
BTN: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9♦: 9♥:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.24) Q♣: J♥: 9♠: (4 players)
Hero bets $0.15, BB folds, MP raises to $0.44, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.95, MP calls $1.20 and is all-in

First off, sorry for my bad English. So I'm a newby and I don't really know how to play a set on a board with a straight, or a flush for that matter.
I'm trying to follow Confidant91's beginner strategy. So I donk 2/3 on flop to get value from draws, top pairs and double pairs (and because it is what said strategy tells you to do). And once I get raised I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Thinking about it now I guess that most of the hands that raise here are better sets and straights. So ye, Im kinda lost... not even kinda, really lost. So thats it, if someone could enlighten me I would really appreciate it. Thank you very much.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

3bet pre vs MP.
I'm not donking this. Board is super wet, he can raise with all of his draws and better.
You'll probably face better sets or some reverse implied odds, but can't blame you for shoving bottom set here.


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TheMemeDream
Joined: 12.01.2019

Nice, thanks a lot for the answer. I'm only 3betting AK and QQ+ right now xD
Ok so 3bet pre, vs 4bet I guess you fold, and vs call how much would you cbet? And what would you do against a raise vs said cbet?


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

SB is the worst position on the table, by calling you give BB a great price and position over you, besides MP.
Yes, I think 3bet/fold at NL2 is the best move most of the times. 4betting ranges are pretty pretty tight and 99 is not good enough.
MP should still be calling a bit wide IP against SB. Some especulative hands, like 87s, 98s, T9s are calling. Some suited aces and suited broadways too. This board is going to hit his range very well, so he probably won't give up OTF. Not even to a bigger bet.
I think most players won't raise enough as a bluff here. There are no flushdraws, which reduces his range a lot when he raises imo. Pairs with draws (JT, QT, KQ, KJ) are mostly calling a cbet. Some draws might raise IP once they control the pot and can check-back OTT and see a free card OTR, because you'll have to check some turns.
QQ, JJ, 99, QJ should be raising more often than calling.
I think a big part of his range will call here if you decided to continue imo. Not to mention it is a 3bet pot and you are clearly strong by cbetting this board.
When he raises, calling doesn't make any sense OOP. Shove or fold. As I said, you'll face some better sets, but 99 is strong enough for me to stackoff, taking into account that his raising range is wider than QQ, JJ.
Some info on villain would help on the decision too.


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TheMemeDream
Joined: 12.01.2019

Daaaaamn, thats so much info... Thank you very much, you helped me a lot to understand this situation better. Thanks again.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I don't really see the point of squeezing 99 vs MP-CO whereas we can set mine easily at NL2.

OTF : Brace yourself, cooler is coming. But a real warrior doesn't flee from the fight ! When you play the game of set mining, either you win or you die.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

I think 99 is storng enough to call preflop, but you should mix some raises as well to keep a balanced range.

I would stack off on the flop. Hard to be really certain but I think his raising range is wide enough that you should be making profit.


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TheMemeDream
Joined: 12.01.2019

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
OTF : Brace yourself, cooler is coming. But a real warrior doesn't flee from the fight ! When you play the game of set mining, either you win or you die.

Ooook, that means that i should try to get all in on the Flop even if there is a straight or a flush, right sensei?

Thanks to both of you, I guess I didnt play that so bad after all xD


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