Full House VS Quads.. Did I screw myself not to raise more PREFLOP?

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It says that you raised to $0.04 that UTG called.

It seems to me that that would meant that UTG must have limped.
(or perhaps the hand history is messed up -- that happens sometimes.)

Disclaimer: I am NOT a coach!;

Typically, raising 3BB + 1 per limper is suggested -- so here you would raise to 8BB.
Also, we typically suggest always playing with a minimum 100 BB stack.

In this case though, he may very well have called with his TJs anyway.

You did lose a lot less than you could have, so all in all, I figure you played it well.

I'm curious to hear what the real experts think though...

All the best,
VS

Ahh sorry.

Actually I did not know about the 'Copy to focum' feature in PT4. So I repost it again with full info:

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): €1.74
BTN: €1.82 (VPIP: 56.52, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
SB: €1.91 (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: €2.28 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has A♣ Q♦

Hero raises to €0.04, fold, SB calls €0.03, fold

Flop: (€0.10, 2 players) J♥ Q♣ J♦
SB bets €0.02, Hero raises to €0.06, SB calls €0.04

Turn: (€0.22, 2 players) J♠
SB bets €0.02, Hero raises to €0.15, SB calls €0.13

River: (€0.52, 2 players) 8♣
SB bets €0.02, Hero raises to €0.08, SB raises to €0.14, Hero calls €0.06

SB shows T♣ J♣ (Four of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 40%, Flop 91%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks A♣ Q♦ (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
(Pre 60%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
SB wins €0.75

Raise to 3x. Then thank villain for facing your raises so passively and move to the next hand. GG!

I would raise this to 3bb pre-flop. Normally I use 2.5x from CO but as this hand is a "premium" hand and villains won't react to different bet sizes, I think it is good to raise larger.
I guess flop and turn are ok but I would definitely raise larger OTR. Jx is very unlikely and quite often it is very difficult for villains to fold any full houses, so you could get calls from weaker ones.

Thanks all..

Let's imagine I did 3bb raise pre-flop and he called again. If after the flop, he continued on minimum bet (1bb) and got raised by me every time (turn and river) and re-raised me at showdown, had I supposed to consider him having a jack in his hand which makes him to have quads?

I know the size of the bet is nothing and I am just starting to analyzing my hands, but I want to know, I was wrong on calling his re-raise by not considering possibility of having a jack in his hands? Something told me that he might have a jack in his hand, but at the end I told myself "quads??? it is so improbable.." and then I called and he won.

First off, Your min raise give SB a good price to call.

Also on both the Flop and Turn, you showed extreme strength by Re-raise (although you only have a marginal strength hand),
but SB still calls on both streets, now think... Why?

At this stage, your AQ is clearly not good any more. SB could have KK, QJ, Jx that easily have you crushed.

So your ReRaise the 3rd time on the River definitely does not feel right. It's more like a bluff.

I would just call the cheap 0.02, and see a cheap showdown.

Originally posted by flygo
Also on both the Flop and Turn, you showed extreme strength by Re-raise (although you only have a marginal strength hand),

I usually just treat those minbets as checks.. Raising a fish who minbets doesn't show extreme strength imo. And you can call 2 pair and full house a marginal strength hand but I wouldn't