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PLO10 QQ35ss 3bet pot, flop c-r plausible?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Not much reads on CO but so far play had been passive.

So I open raised from HJ and CO 3bet pot. I would have probably just open folded as single suit. Called preflop versus 3bet.

On flop I kind of thought making small c-r could make some sense (e.g. to 3€) having two backdoor flush draws (plus sort of straight draw I suppose) and likely having range advantage. Well I would 3bet some rundowns on CO shoes but seems like population here is not doing it much at all.

If villain call versus 3€ raise turn would be SPR 1 spot. But yeah it felt ok spot to make move but didnt really have any real plan. E.g. if villain call do I just give up, do I shove most club or diamond turns, etc. So took safe option.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

i like the double BDFDs for a move.

i dont like moves vs unknown players in 3bet pots without blocker.
i also dont like to talk about range advantage here if unsure wether he can 3bet rundowns IP or not but then assuming he is on the passive/straightforward side of life and make a move on this flop.

if you really felt like this, why dont you pot donk flop? should be cheaper if you want to get aces to fold


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well didn't have much read on villain but from player pool reads in general I have very rarely seen rundown 3bets.

I don't donk bet this as I would not donk bet straights either. Maybe I should or take exploitative donk bets. Imo when it's rainbow flop I don't see too much point in donking. With flush draw on flop there could be more point as protection.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Wtf no you dont have any range-advantage on this board.

This is a light low straight flop. A good play is to use the flop shift where nobody hits to start donk-betting out small with some bluffs to exploit villains who overfold this flop texture but in general our utg range primarily consists of big cards and villain due to having position is (correctly) allowed to steal a lot of pots here.

Id want to have some nut-outs to make a bluffy x/r play (at least a gutshot). U can x/c to stack-off :diamond: or :club: turns but this would be really very wide and loose defensive method.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well I mainly meant that population seems to be 3betting mid rundowns pretty rarely as default. Especially passive opponents tend to 3bet range heavily weighted toward AAxx and perhaps other big card hands like AQJT etc. Where as I do open raise-call with something like 8764s+ type hands which is probably too loose. Anyway I see lot more 98xx in my range than passive villain 3bet range. Sets are rare for me also. Just some 7786s type.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

that population seems to be 3betting mid rundowns pretty rarely as default

u sure?

normally they should 3-bet rundowns aswell.

I mean it does not mean you are not allowed to raise here ever but x/f turns would be a desastrous outcome and the backdoorflush if it arrives is not going to give you the lead if he has some sort of hand.


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