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Bet-sizing tips on this spot

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biel1996
Joined: 09.12.2015

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 115.5 BB
UTG: 269 BB
Hero (UTG+1): 116.5 BB
MP: 105 BB
MP+1: 152.5 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 96.5 BB
SB: 56 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♦ A♣

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 4 players) Q♠ A♠ 4♦
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, MP calls 7 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero bets 16 BB, fold

Hero wins 25 BB

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Hello friends. So I was reviewing a few hands of my last session and wanted a tip from you guys on how can I extract the most value out of this spot.

I was the preflop agressor but 3 villains called my raise. Then I flop two pairs on a board that has 2 spades, which kinda concerns me.

After MP called my 60%pot c-bet on the flop, I felt in a weird spot because he could have a flush draw, so I bet big again on the turn and he folds.

Really felt to me that there was a way to extract more out of this situation. Even if I did win the pot, do you guys feel that on this spot theres a more +EV line to take? Maybe value bet thinner on flop or turn...

Anyway, up to you guys now :f_drink:


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Title of thread seems a little bit off, because you have top 2 pair here.
Anyway I would play the hand the same. Only the betsizing on the turn is a little bit high.
I would bet around half pot or villain is a calling station.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

you can only win a lot of money when villains actually have something (or run some insane uncalled for bluff for some reason)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

There are push bets and pull bets.
Push bets for when you want villain to fold.
Pull bets are when you want villain to call or raise.

Since the turn is quite a brick, maybe a 1/3 pot-sized bet might keep alive his dreams of hitting a flush -- but maybe not.

What is your plan if a spade comes on the river and he shoves?
When you bet large on the turn, do you fold to a check/shove?

Note: I am really not a hold'em player!

Best of luck,
VS


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biel1996
Joined: 09.12.2015

SDK, Tomaloc, thank you for your replies.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Since the turn is quite a brick, maybe a 1/3 pot-sized bet might keep alive his dreams of hitting a flush -- but maybe not.

What is your plan if a spade comes on the river and he shoves?
When you bet large on the turn, do you fold to a check/shove?

Thanks Vorpal. I understand your point. I was really concerned with the fact that I was OOP (and also a little bit because I've been playing lots of big pots against this villain the past few days, and I really didn't want to lose that one). My intention was that with this betsize he would fold enough of his draws and maybe call with worse made hands. If he called the turn and a spade came i'd probably check/call or check/fold to a large bet.

My real question on this play is if it is worth to give him a "cheap" river or, on the long run, is better to protect my made hand, especially out of position. If I was in position I would definetly bet smaller here, hoping for a call.

Cheers!


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Well, slowplaying strong hands OOP is not the standard procedure.
What I think is a bit off are the sizings. Flop's quite big.
Qx hands don't call double barrels with the flop size. Even weaker Ax (AT, AJ, if MP calls them vs UTG) can find folds quite easily.
You'd need to have a very aggro image to consider bluff catching here tbh.


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