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GGPokerCasey
Joined: 09.01.2020

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNER
https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousSoftEyeballAliens

Any cure for broken heart GGPoker Casey?

That's absolutely disgusting :f_cry:. I suggest remounting that particular horse to put things back in their rightful order :f_thumbsup:.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Originally posted by GGPokerCasey

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNER
https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousSoftEyeballAliens

Any cure for broken heart GGPoker Casey?

That's absolutely disgusting :f_cry:. I suggest remounting that particular horse to put things back in their rightful order :f_thumbsup:.

Sure did! Booked a small profit during the session after that monstrosity!


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saviola8321
Joined: 17.10.2009

good afternoon. 1 week ago I sent all the requested documents for the strategys ticket but I haven't received it since


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

What to prove? It is impossible for human to play 18000-20000 hands daily on 4 tables 7 days in the week!
If you ever did 100 000 hands monthly, that is ridiculous volume as I ever did on 4 zoom tables you would know, that no human can play 500 000+ hands every month even 1 month! So they are bots or they are a few players playing with the same account!
I am high volume reg and I could't even cash out from the race lol.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Originally posted by vengeance77
What to prove? It is impossible for human to play 18000-20000 hands daily on 4 tables 7 days in the week!
If you ever did 100 000 hands monthly, that is ridiculous volume as I ever did on 4 zoom tables you would know, that no human can play 500 000+ hands every month even 1 month! So they are bots or they are a few players playing with the same account!
I am high volume reg and I could't even cash out from the race lol.

So no proof?


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Watching UPAY4DINNER and Two'sNeverLose streaming on GG poker has convinced me to give the site a whirl great streams chaps keep it up.Really looking forward to playing on GG poker the site looks fantastic and improving all the time. :f_thumbsup:

Every time i watch this i'm 99.9% sure the 99's will hold and they lose every time :f_o:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousSoftEyeballAliens <


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by vengeance77
What to prove? It is impossible for human to play 18000-20000 hands daily on 4 tables 7 days in the week!

From your earlier post you showed a player with a volume of 5000 raked hands.

Originally posted by vengeance77
Tell me please how 1 human can play every day 5000 raked hands on NL10 with no more than 22VPIP! That is like 20 000 hands on 4 tables seriously? With your software is hard to play more than 900 hands per hour! SO what do you say?

From where do you get his VPIP? If he had a VPIP of 50% then that is only 10,000 hands.

I learned early on that rake races were not possible for me to win -- I have too many other demands on my time, but if I was single, I could easily play 12 hours per day, and 10,000 is quite possible in fast-fold poker. Currently the Rush-and-Cash $0.01/$0.02 table is showing 180 hands/hour.
Playing 4 tables, 10,000 is only 14 hours.

If you re-examine all your arguments against GGPoker, almost all of them relate to their promotions.
It is important to play on a site because of the software, the ease of deposit/withdrawal and so on.

By all means, take advantage of the promotions that you have a reasonable chance of achieving, but they should not be your main reason for playing at a site.

Having said all that, I do agree that it is important to trust the site you play on, and GGPoker has the responsibility to investigate any unusual or anomalous volume.
Remember that they are under no obligation to reveal the result of any investigation. In fact, privacy laws may prohibit them from doing so.

All the best,
VS


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Originally posted by saviola8321
good afternoon. 1 week ago I sent all the requested documents for the strategys ticket but I haven't received it since

I would suggest opening a ticket with our customer support team.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
From where do you get his VPIP? If he had a VPIP of 50% then that is only 10,000 hands.

Currently the Rush-and-Cash $0.01/$0.02 table is showing 180 hands/hour.
Playing 4 tables, 10,000 is only 14 hours.

The Leaderboards
1/27 - 2/2
1
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Moldova 4,498 $800
2
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Ukraine 4,062 $650

1/ There is no such thing as 50 VPIP on fast-fold format! The average VPIP on NL10 is 18-20%, in the bast case with 20% to do 4500 RAKED hands you simply need to play 4500*5 = 22 500 hands daily!

2/ You can play max 4 tables! So if you are super GRINDER and yo can do from 180 h/h to 200h/h x 4 tables = 800 hh. THIS IS 22500/800= 28h YOU NEED TO PLAY 28h in a day yo achieve that!

Welcome to the impossible! And you can see that some thing are doing it every day for months! The IMPOSSIBLE!

CHEERS

And Your RAKE back is close to 10%
, because the fck wheel stops on the lowest reward like 95%+ of the time! And the rake is the most brutal in the industry!


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Stay a way from this FRAUD network or you will get REKT!


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Isn't the rake 5% for cash games ? that seems about average but with a higher rakeback + bonus return than most sites.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

regarding the wheel of fortune rakeback: I remember I had only the mincashes for like Aug 2019 until December 2019 and I totally was like "yeah right, this will always mincash no matter what"

But I have to say that is not true and I cashed the better half prices in the last weeks. So I can not support vengeance77 on this one


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JCSeerup
Joined: 14.12.2010

Are there previous cases of accounts in the leaderboard races that has been caught for being bots or sharing accounts?

Now that it is possible to download HH's it would be fun to pool together a large amount of hands of all 24 hours a day to see if there is a big change in how some of the accounts play during the day.

I did the rake race once and fwiw the accounts that take the top spots do take really high variance spots and are clearly not trying to win pre RB. But I wouldn't leave out the possibility that there might be multiple people on some accounts.


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Isn't the rake 5% for cash games ? that seems about average but with a higher rakeback + bonus return than most sites.

After reading vengeance77's claim that the rake is the most brutal online, and your response that the rake is just 5% in line with the industry standard, and with favourable rakeback, I decided to Google for more information about this subject. As always the Devil is in the detail.

While GGPoker charges a reasonable 5% rake they also set a ridiculously high rake cap, making multiway all-ins and/or deep stack all-ins veritable rake traps.

GGPoker NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $3

$0.10 / $0.25, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $5

£0.25 / $0.50, rake 5% , Rake cap 3+ players $5

Pokerstars NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 4.50%, Rake cap for 3-4 player $1.00, 5+ players $1.50

$0.10 / $0.20, rake 4.5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players £1.00, 5+players $2.00

$0.50 / $1.00, rake 5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players $0.75, 5+players $2.00

I got this information on a third party poker site because GGPoker haven't made it easily available on theirs. It's possible the information is now out of date. If this proves to be the case I apologise in advance.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

arthurbentley - This is on the normal tables! On fast-fold tables the rake is a lot higher to collect for those cash, that they are dropping time to time!


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Redwinee
Joined: 18.11.2015

Hi there, could you please check is my strategy account connected with ggpoker account?


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA

Originally posted by arthurbentley

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Isn't the rake 5% for cash games ? that seems about average but with a higher rakeback + bonus return than most sites.

After reading vengeance77's claim that the rake is the most brutal online, and your response that the rake is just 5% in line with the industry standard, and with favourable rakeback, I decided to Google for more information about this subject. As always the Devil is in the detail.

While GGPoker charges a reasonable 5% rake they also set a ridiculously high rake cap, making multiway all-ins and/or deep stack all-ins veritable rake traps.

GGPoker NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $3

$0.10 / $0.25, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $5

£0.25 / $0.50, rake 5% , Rake cap 3+ players $5

Pokerstars NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 4.50%, Rake cap for 3-4 player $1.00, 5+ players $1.50

$0.10 / $0.20, rake 4.5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players £1.00, 5+players $2.00

$0.50 / $1.00, rake 5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players $0.75, 5+players $2.00

I got this information on a third party poker site because GGPoker haven't made it easily available on theirs. It's possible the information is now out of date. If this proves to be the case I apologise in advance.

That's the high stakes chart you used for Pokerstars the micros is actually much lower.So it appears to be a 200% to 500% increase on GG poker in most cases unless im getting something drastically wrong. If the charts are correct of course.

Wrong. Look again.


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Originally posted by arthurbentley

Originally posted by RedsYNWA

Originally posted by arthurbentley

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Isn't the rake 5% for cash games ? that seems about average but with a higher rakeback + bonus return than most sites.

After reading vengeance77's claim that the rake is the most brutal online, and your response that the rake is just 5% in line with the industry standard, and with favourable rakeback, I decided to Google for more information about this subject. As always the Devil is in the detail.

While GGPoker charges a reasonable 5% rake they also set a ridiculously high rake cap, making multiway all-ins and/or deep stack all-ins veritable rake traps.

GGPoker NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $3

$0.10 / $0.25, rake 5%, Rake cap 3+ players $5

£0.25 / $0.50, rake 5% , Rake cap 3+ players $5

Pokerstars NL rake:

$0.05 / $0.10, rake 4.50%, Rake cap for 3-4 player $1.00, 5+ players $1.50

$0.10 / $0.20, rake 4.5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players £1.00, 5+players $2.00

$0.50 / $1.00, rake 5%, Rake cap for 3-4 players $0.75, 5+players $2.00

I got this information on a third party poker site because GGPoker haven't made it easily available on theirs. It's possible the information is now out of date. If this proves to be the case I apologise in advance.

That's the high stakes chart you used for Pokerstars the micros is actually much lower.So it appears to be a 200% to 500% increase on GG poker in most cases unless im getting something drastically wrong. If the charts are correct of course.

Wrong. Look again.

So if the charts are correct GG poker would be between 100% to 200% increase for the all in pots.That's depending on how many players are all in when it's 3+ players ?.The GG caps given are for 3+ players and don't state any HU caps so a comparison can't be made about hu all in situations.

I'm not 100% sure how the all in pots will affect a win rate once you account for rakeback + bonuses.Because the 5% rake for the non all in pots is perfectly ok.Ive never really looked to in depth in to rake charges before to be honest


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

So if the charts are correct GG poker would be between 100% to 200% increase for the all in pots. That's depending on how many players are all in when it's 3+ players ?.The GG caps given are for 3+ players and don't state any HU caps so a comparison can't be made about hu all in situations.

I'm not 100% sure how the all in pots will affect a win rate once you account for rakeback + bonuses. Because the 5% rake for the non all in pots is perfectly ok. Ive never really looked to in depth in to rake charges before to be honest.

Only way to circumnavigate the rake trap is to avoid effective deep stack all-ins. Change tables as soon as you have 200bbs. Otherwise you are going to get ass raked.

Honestly, if you care about your bottom line, Unibet is the place to play at.


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Originally posted by arthurbentley

So if the charts are correct GG poker would be between 100% to 200% increase for the all in pots. That's depending on how many players are all in when it's 3+ players ?.The GG caps given are for 3+ players and don't state any HU caps so a comparison can't be made about hu all in situations.

I'm not 100% sure how the all in pots will affect a win rate once you account for rakeback + bonuses. Because the 5% rake for the non all in pots is perfectly ok. Ive never really looked to in depth in to rake charges before to be honest.

Only way to circumnavigate the rake trap is to avoid effective deep stack all-ins. Change tables as soon as you have 200bbs. Otherwise you are going to get ass raked.

Honestly, if you care about your bottom line, Unibet is the place to play at.

3+ player preflop all ins for 200bb's are so few and far between they aren't even worth worrying about to be honest.And while i do care about my bottom line i also don't mind paying a premium for the software i'm playing on if it's worth it.Ill give GG poker a try for a while and see how the playing experience is.


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