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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by AvalonSol
that call made me question everything I know.

He was calling as a bluff -- if he gets two clubs on the river, he has 2nd nut flush :coolface:
I have seen this sort of thing before.
Not often enough unfortunately

Calling as a bluff :profit:

I start another session and within few hands this happens:

He snapped the turn and pretty much snapped the river, what's going on ? Have I received a global note that states I am over aggro or something ? I actually play quite nitty lately...

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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

10BB added to a pot and the fireworks start again. Here we go...


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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

srsly, am I missing something ? A-high calldowns continues.

And here is quite interesting run-out for bluffcatch.

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by AvalonSol
srsly, am I missing something ? A-high calldowns continues.

Both of the last two hands had gutshots, but to call OTR with no equity seems peculiar


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Your last hand what's your thought process to call the river?


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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

Originally posted by Dragar
Your last hand what's your thought process to call the river?

if I am bluffcatching I am doing it mostly based on tells and mental notes - I tend to believe players and overfold.

hes just not repping much throughout the hand.
FLOP
Hes raising a pretty dry board for start, yes it hits BB range but not very hard I have much more strong hands here than BB. Sure he can have 55, 99 or AJ and raising dry board is usually polarizing, but he doesn't have full stack and due to R&C dynamics ppl sometimes raise random stuff and give up on later streets [I wouldn't be surprised if he would do that with hand like JT, QT, TT or other more random stuff like gut shot he ended up on the river with]. I was actually considering folding for a sec [you can see the time bank as I went through reasons to call in my head] - like I said I play pretty nitty lately and I don't bother sticking to marginal hands - considering all the above and the fact I had the position I decided to call and see the turn.
TURN
Ace is a pretty good card for me, now it is less likely he has AJ so that makes my hand the best J possible. Yes he can have a random Ace sometimes, but what Ace would that be ? He would raise it pre most likely adn if not why raising the flop than? AJ is blocked by the board, my hand and I am not that convinced that he would raise it on this kind of a dry board every time, maybe he can have A9 some times but that's about it. He still has 55 and 99 as his value hands - if my hand is good on the flop it should be good on this turn most of the time + I have a nut fd now, so I'm not going anywhere just yet.
RIVER
9 comes and now pretty much every value hand he was repping is blocked by the board. 55 and maybe AJ is the only thing that he can represent now and he instantly shoves for the remaining stack, wouldn't you at least think a bit what to do here with AJ ?. So I tanked a bit asking myself If I really want to do this and decided to go with my guts. To be honest - I was expecting to see a random 9 - I would just shrug my shoulders and move on.

So there isn't just my hand on the river to consider but the whole story. He was saying on the flop "I have the nuts or nothing" and the run out kept taking aways hes nutty combos.

It would be much easier If I could play you the hand and show you what I mean - on paper you can just analyze whaterer you want however you want - its a lot different in real time.

Sometimes something feels OFF. You can't put your finger on it, but due to how ppl tend to play, their sizing or timing you can just TELL something seems off - I tend to trust my reads, the run-out was a big help tho.

Maybe I'll do a post on timing tells combined with something you can look for on R&C to see if some1 will be more inclined to bluff.

I need to start reading carefully before I post - i make so many mistakes it takes several edits to fix it :f_rolleyes:

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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

take a look at that and tell me I am sane.

to be fair, that's not a call I was happy to make and honestly I can't explain this one using my theory knowledge [its not a lot anyhow]. Pure tells based.

I would love to listen to my guts everytime, unfortunately my head gets in my way a lot of the times and I end up making "correct" play and losing instead of just freaking go with my reads no matter how silly it seems. Im working on it tho and I am making progress.

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by AvalonSol
take a look at that and tell me I am sane.

Do you want the truth, or should I just tell you're sane?

Villain was counting on you not having 2 clubs, and further not having and A, and still further not having the jam to bluffcatch.

Is it possible he's just trying for leaderboard points?


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Redaktor
Joined: 06.09.2020

I've had 2-3 hands today that I played completely disconnected, on autopilot and obviously it went very wrong very fast.

So I started to pay attention but quite intensely. I started to have those "instant thoughts" or "feelings" about the hands and I decided "fuck it, lets go with it".

Its hard to tune in into it and often my head gets in the way. But when I am completly present and "in the moment" it just sort of happens.

so here are 2 weird hands.

I was about to call and I felt this need to min-raise. obv very strange thought considering the action - like "what the fuck will min-raise accomplish here" - but it worked - I was quite shocked.

and that one is just... wtf has happened ?

I remember my time on Run It Once - I was playing crazy aggro. I was actually concerned with my approach - I was just clicking buttons and it somehow worked - but it was a small sample, so I had no "validation" and then I've changed the room due to lack of traffic. Combination of things happened next that lead to me playing tighter and tighter, bluffing and semi-bluffing less and less. It made me learn thin v-betting and bluff catching a lot better and maybe better understand what hands to give up with to not overdo the bluffs but it also made me scared and super passive in a lot of spots.

I am excited to find this part of me thats willing to go crazy and trust my guts again. Considering the financial pressure I am under right now its seems insane - I love it tho.

I hope I will develop a solid strategy of tuning into this state of instantly knowing what to do, no matter how silly or crazy it may seem to rational mind.

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FranKAtank
Joined: 14.04.2021

What’s happened here? Probably the most dedication I’ve seen to posting playing and studying and then it just ends?


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Itsnevereasy
Joined: 08.08.2010

Incredible dedication, especially at the micros. What happened?


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Primten
Joined: 31.07.2007

I started to have those "instant thoughts" or "feelings" about the hands and I decided "fuck it, lets go with it".

that's what happened perhaps.


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