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AA TPTK flop vs reg

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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 30.4 BB
MP: 97 BB 20/17

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[P] 3Bet Blind vs steals w/{KK,AQs,ATs,T9s,AKo,A8o,KJo,QJo} (11)
[P] 3Bet range {QQ+,88-99,AQs,ATs,A5s,KQs,T9s,A8o+,KJo+,QJo} (39)
[P] 4Bet+ range {JJ+,AKo} (7)
[P] Attempted Steal then 4Bet {AKo} (1)
[P] Called 2Bet from blinds range {77-TT,44-55,A9s-ATs,K8s,QJs,Q8s,JTs,T9s,43s,KQo,K8o,K6o} (23)
[P] Called 3Bets in position {QQ,99-TT,77,AQs+,KQs,AQo+} (9)
[P] Called 3Bets out of position with {KK,99,AJo} (3)
[P] Called any 4Bets {JJ-QQ,AQo+,A9o} (5)
[F] Raised Flop Cbet w/Overpair or less & no draw (3)
[T] Called two 1/2 Pot or greater barrels w/draw (1)
[T] Played turn draw aggressively (6)

CO: 47.7 BB
BTN: 108.7 BB
SB: 56.2 BB
Hero (BB): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ A♣

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 9.5 BB
The 3bet could and maybe should've been bigger. But as I have some info on villain, I want to keep his AQ and AJ in play. His 4bet frequency with JJ+ is high. AK 4bet frequency is a little less frequent, so I'd assume he wouldn't 4bet AK against me 100%.
What call range do you assign him?

Flop: (29.5 BB, 2 players) K♦ 9♣ Q♣
Hero bets 8 BB, MP raises to 22.5 BB, Hero ?
Flop full of action cards.
This is not the kind of villain to call a 3bet with JT.
KQ/KJ is hardly in range, also
I bet small OTF because I want him to keep AQ in range and 1/2pot+ would make him fold AQ.
Think he only has AK raise range here, considering PF and his stats.
Even 99 I am not sure if he'd raise me OTF, or wait for the turn. Maybe he could raise me here with 99 because of my small bet, but this board is so much on my 3bet range, his raise here, IP, would only make me fold TT/JJ as I would've catch anything in the flop with the rest of my range.
Would you place KK and QQ there without a 4bet PF?


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Would you place KK and QQ there without a 4bet PF?

I don't see players flatting 3 bets with KK that often, only have 2NL experience, and everyone plays the same push KK and sometimes flat QQ-77.
I think AK, AJ, AQ, KQ, QQ, 99, TT more likely. Your spoiler does show V flatting KK, I don't know, this is a difficult flop to play on.

PS
You title is wrong.


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frib
Joined: 26.08.2006

I actually like c/c flop to just let him barrel his worse hands thinking we have AJ or JJ/TT. Since we block the nut FD, I’m really only afraid of KJ, KT in clubs.

The board is literally the worst flop possible for you, there’s not many worse hands he can calldown to a showdown with (of course peeling with pair + gutshot is fine, but will often fold the turn

As played, it’s a b/f for me


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would consider to 3bet at least 15bb out of position, but on a board like this it's tough to get to much value. Mid pairs will fold and 2 pair or better will raise. Now you need even to consider folding a over pair. You only beat a flush draw that has decent equity against you and seems check/call a decent option to keep the pot under control in position.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

villain, could have QQ I can see calling being IP also I see PP 99, also 6 combos of KQ, I dont see many FD here with you having the Aclub.. as stated Above, villain with KK is 4betting IMO

I would probably call raise and see what villain does on turn. If another club comes and he doesnt go all in I would probably call. If he raises huge on turn i am getting away from hand.. NOW to check the spolier.


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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

Considering a call OTF, what would be the actions OTT and OTR to blanks? let's say 5♠ 2♥
In case you advocate for the call down with such cards, what cards would make you fold after the flop?

OTF, I can see a fold, a push, or a 3bet to 55BBs and cry fold to shove, but the calling line I think will end up in call shove situation, sooner or later.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

If it’s a brink ott check call.. depending on bet size, ( small size) if he rips I think then you need to fold.. villain could also have called with AK instead of 4 betting..

If turn goes c/c I think you possible could block bet, or check down.. I just think folding to a check raise flop with all the draws is a little to nitty. Maybe he has 910 or even j10. The pt4 read out is okay but it doesn’t have all the answers. I have stats of 50k hands on players(regs) and they still do some wacky stuff, every once in awhile.


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