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The Shortdeck Diary: Chapter 2 - Becoming a semi pro

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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Even more when it's followed up by these sessions:

Also glad I surpassed my EV line from last 6 minths :)


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H0witzer
Joined: 27.02.2023

Nice Fredjen! Excel for the win :f_thumbsup:

It's great to be a Belgian but no rakeback is a bit** :coolface:


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Originally posted by H0witzer
Nice Fredjen! Excel for the win :f_thumbsup:

It's great to be a Belgian but no rakeback is a bit** :coolface:

Yes on stars I cleared a chest (rake paid 78$) reward 120 coins = 1.2$ _cry:
And that is 1.2$ more than we would get on GG. Seriously it's very hard specially at micro's.


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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

Short deck is one of those crazy games that really boomed lately. I'm going to read your entire blog and follow your progress from now on.

Good luck!


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Originally posted by samni
Short deck is one of those crazy games that really boomed lately. I'm going to read your entire blog and follow your progress from now on.

Good luck!

❤️


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Curious as to where you think the best place to play Short Deck these days?

Have you tried most sites?

What are your opinions on the one's you've tried?

What sites do you stay away from and why?


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aceonetheriver
Joined: 26.12.2008

I tried 6+ one time, for like 50k hands, I tell you what, crazy game, and so many all in, but I was told that if you play nl25 it is equal to nl100 in terms of money/hour. is that true?

I called it after 50k, was down around 20$.


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNER
Curious as to where you think the best place to play Short Deck these days?

Depending on your location you have Stars or GG. For microstakes and learning I would recommend Stars because you can use HUD. Also apps are an option but I don't have experience in that. Frankly I'm a bit scared to lose big chunck of my bankroll on an app.

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNERHave you tried most sites?

Stars and GG. Now % stars because of no rakeback on GG but still 1% or so on Stars.

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNERWhat are your opinions on the one's you've tried?

Stars def best to learn because of HUD but if you only have rakback on GG than that is the site to go. Also if I owuld reach higher stakes like NL200 I would have to move to GG.

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNERWhat sites do you stay away from and why?

I tried apps once but feels really strange and a bit unsafe imo.
GG is very tilting for me but that you can get used to. Overall I just don't trust GG because of PVI. For Belgians it doesn't matter but still it's the idea. It's like you know each month you earn 3k from a dayjob but it depends on how good (or bad) you have worked how luch you actually recieve and get no clear explanation for it.


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Originally posted by aceonetheriver
I tried 6+ one time, for like 50k hands, I tell you what, crazy game, and so many all in, but I was told that if you play nl25 it is equal to nl100 in terms of money/hour. is that true?

I called it after 50k, was down around 20$.

All true simply because when you 3b you go allin. It's comparable action wise like 6max NL Holdem and everybody has to buy in with 15-20bb.
10 stack swings in 1 session are more common than exceptional.


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008
April update: Fish on a heater

On 10NL I run like crap but NL25 is making up for it. I'm getting attacked by loose regs left and right and had som ebig multiways pot that need to get looked into. I am playing too much and not studying enough also. That makes I'm uncertain in spots where I used to be certain. All in all happy to get the experience in. Plan is def to move back to 10NL when BR should drop below 1k.

Hand 1: T9s no brain call all in with my stack size and the potentially dead money from CO in pot.

PokerStars, 6+ Hold'em No Limit - Button Blind $0.25 ($0.25 ante) - 6 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG: $29.62 (118 bb)
UTG+1: $25.45 (102 bb)
MP: $31.42 (126 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): $19.35 (77 bb)
CO: $23.93 (96 bb)
BU: $33.18 (133 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.75) Hero is MP+1 with 9♦ T♦
UTG calls $0.25, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.25, CO raises to $2.75, BTN 3-bets to $32.93 (all-in), UTG calls $29.12 (all-in), Hero calls $18.85 (all-in), CO calls $20.93 (all-in), thinks about how thinking about an itch makes you have to itch

Flop: ($103.02) 7♠ 6♣ 8♦ (4 players, 4 all-in)

Turn: ($103.02) A♠ (4 players, 4 all-in)

River: ($103.02) K♥ (4 players, 4 all-in)

Total pot: $103.02 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
BU shows K♣ Q♣
CO shows A♣ K♦ (two pair, Aces and Kings)
UTG shows A♦ A♥ (three of a kind, Aces)
MP+1 (Hero) shows 9♦ T♦ (a straight, Six to Ten)
UTG wins $25.12
MP+1 (Hero) wins $75.90

:spade::heart::diamond::club:

Hand 2: In game it was not a big point but when reviewing it I only had 20% equity. Def need to get back on this and pinpoint some ranges.

PokerStars, 6+ Hold'em No Limit - Button Blind $0.25 ($0.25 ante) - 6 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG: $28.52 (114 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): $103.31 (413 bb)
MP: $24.50 (98 bb)
MP+1: $28.87 (115 bb)
CO: $36.81 (147 bb)
BU: $38.46 (154 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.75) Hero is UTG+1 with T♥ 9♠
UTG raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, MP+1 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.25

Flop: ($4.50) J♥ Q♣ 6♣ (6 players)
UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, MP+1 raises to $28.12 (all-in), CO calls $28.12, 2 players fold, Hero raises to $55.74, MP folds, CO calls $7.94 (all-in)

Turn: ($105.74) 7♠ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($105.74) 8♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $105.74 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
UTG+1 (Hero) shows T♥ 9♠ (a straight, Eight to Queen)
MP+1 shows K♦ T♣ (high card King)
CO shows J♣ 8♣ (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
UTG+1 (Hero) wins $103.74

:club::diamond::heart::spade:

Hand 3: In equity after rake I lose almost 1$ in a pot where I flop the nut straight. Shows you how crazy the game is and how the swing between the yellow and green line develop.

PokerStars, 6+ Hold'em No Limit - Button Blind $0.25 ($0.25 ante) - 5 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

UTG: $25.00 (100 bb)
MP: $50.37 (201 bb)
MP+1: $27.29 (109 bb)
CO (Hero): $37.43 (150 bb)
BU: $44.45 (178 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K♠ T♣
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, MP+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10) Q♥ J♦ 9♥ (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5.23, UTG folds, MP raises to $47.37 (all-in), Hero calls $29.20 (all-in)

Turn: ($78.86) K♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($78.86) A♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $78.86 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
MP shows 9♣ 9♦ (three of a kind, Nines)
CO (Hero) shows K♠ T♣ (a straight, Ten to Ace)
CO (Hero) wins $76.86


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Heraier298
Joined: 29.06.2020

Originally posted by Fredjen

April update: Fish on a heater

On 10NL I run like crap but NL25 is making up for it. I'm getting attacked by loose regs left and right and had som ebig multiways pot that need to get looked into. I am playing too much and not studying enough also. That makes I'm uncertain in spots where I used to be certain. All in all happy to get the experience in. Plan is def to move back to 10NL when BR should drop below 1k.

but you win at 10 and lose at 25 in EV. nice stats for 10. good luck keep winning :f_drink:


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008
Session from hell

:heart: Was not tilting
:spade: Felt bummed after session
:heart: Truelly a bit excited to go find out what happened (obv not the god of shortdeck but also some normal setups and coolers)
:spade: Getting a lot of support from my group so confidence is not below zero :)

:diamond: Will have to hit the books again and come back to kick some ass! Also obv I go back to 10NL till BR is ok again.


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

Just a small update so everyone knows I'm still on the grind.

I have been able to regroup, study and get some volume in at 10NL. Obvious running sunhot but I will enjoy it and keep hitting the books. A couple more sessions like this and I will be able to stab 25NL again.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Nice!
Good to see that you recovered from the "session from hell"


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H0witzer
Joined: 27.02.2023

Fredjen fight backs like a true Gandalf!


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

This is what it's all about - overcoming the adversity of bad sessions and coming out the other side.

Shame I cannot take my own advice sometimes (or all the time lol!)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by H0witzer
Fredjen fight backs like a true Gandalf!

Well if it means coming back from the dead to be more powerful — I'm in.
Except for the dying part.

https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3395995#post3395995


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008
April overview

Review goals April
:heart: Play 15k hands :diamond: Played over 22k hands wich is just too much for me to get along with my houdehold, building house and studiyng poker. I'm commited to make this my main (only) hobby but I also need and want to put in the hours off the table.
:heart: Keep same study habbit: 1 session review / week, record 1 session / week to review, Research on specific spots (learn and excercise), Repeat studied subject as an exam to get to the UC level (like driving a car or walking around). :diamond: Total lack of this, enjoyed playing NL25, no study. Got what I deserve.
:heart: Continue the work out shedule and eating healthy. :diamond: Check, it's not an obligation every day on the day but I'm able to fit in my life and adjust it accordingly to changes in other life aspects.

Goals May:
:heart: Play between 10 and 12k hands this month.
:spade: Keep track of the hours off the table.
:heart: Reality is I played around 90h last month for 22k hands, so for this month that should be max 49h. Lets go for 25h of study this month!


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Hopefully, a profit is incoming for May.

It's hard to find the proper balances from month to month.

GLGL for May goals - they seem very achievable in any case.


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Fredjen
Joined: 28.05.2008

May is starting of ok.

Kept to my schedule of playing and studying. After this blog post I will study for about 2h because I have all ready reached my 2.5k hands a week.

Hands played this month: 2433h /10.000h ~ 24%
Study time: 250min / 1500min ~ 16%

The yellow ones are my track of studying, I also have an extra colums where I write down what I did.

Surely I hope to keep this up and play my A game.


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