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I'd just fold turn to be honest, odds don't check out to call here. If I wanna gamble I would call I guess.

Implied odds of course work if villain goes broke on river like he does here, then turn is a call. Think they even work if he would call like a raise to 50bb or so.

Population really like this that they stack of regular enough? Because if they are and you experience that implied odds work I'll adjust my draw play somewhat as well if it's hidden like this.

Originally posted by Dragar
I'd just fold turn to be honest, odds don't check out to call here. If I wanna gamble I would call I guess.

Implied odds of course work if villain goes broke on river like he does here, then turn is a call. Think they even work if he would call like a raise to 50bb or so.

Population really like this that they stack of regular enough? Because if they are and you experience that implied odds work I'll adjust my draw play somewhat as well if it's hidden like this.

That was my math, I'm calling 4.2BB on turn to win 195BB on river. "How delusional are you?" You might ask. But the draw is hidden, that's the key, it flies under the radar, imo. River, of course, was a "GTFOH" snap call.

How delusional are you?
How do you win 195bb, if you have 100bb stack?
This is some idiot. Ok, "regular" idiot..The only draws here are 65 and A5 and they hit OTR. And he is calling with TP, even KJ is better here,44, 22.."Max value". Ok, if you say so..What bluffs do you have here? Ok, whatever..Nice hand.

Dont like it. Chasing 2 streets gutshot is no good for me. Quite a losing play over the long term. You need very good reason to do it. Maybe if you are on normal tables, do some gambling in order to put the player on tilt and then capitalize on his wound. Or if he is already on a tilt and add some salt in his wound. Then it could be justfied.

You claim that your hand is disguised. But how often would you find a call of your shove OTR? That's very important.

I mean you really need very good reads and implied oods to chase gutshot 2 streets.

Easy fold on the turn with 4 outs to win the hand.
Even if you hit the straight on the river it's not likely you always double up.
As played I would make a normal raise. It's really tough to get action with shoving if villain has top pair or weaker.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
Easy fold on the turn with 4 outs to win the hand.
Even if you hit the straight on the river it's not likely you always double up.
As played I would make a normal raise. It's really tough to get action with shoving if villain has top pair or weaker.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Since everyone in the forum folds on turn, I'm gonna assume I'm the only one in the forum who even thinks about the opportunity to double up in this scenario. That makes me feel SPECIAL.

BTW, this hand did have an effect this reg, for he put up the "So Tilted" Emoji and I believed he really was tilted afterwards especially because he snap called on river.

Thank you all for comments.

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by SDK1987
Easy fold on the turn with 4 outs to win the hand.
Even if you hit the straight on the river it's not likely you always double up.
As played I would make a normal raise. It's really tough to get action with shoving if villain has top pair or weaker.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Since everyone in the forum folds on turn, I'm gonna assume I'm the only one in the forum who even thinks about the opportunity to double up in this scenario. That makes me feel SPECIAL.

BTW, this hand did have an effect this reg, for he put up the "So Tilted" Emoji and I believed he really was tilted afterwards especially because he snap called on river.

Thank you all for comments.

No we all think it, just don't think it's possible even with straight.
Villains fold this spot on river the majority of the time Vs agression.

You are not only lucky with the cards but also with the opponent.

You call 4.2bb with 10% equity so that requires close to 2*pot implieds from villain including the rake. I suppose it's fine call if we assume villain to play as bad as he did in this hand.

Villain bet-calling KQ means he is calling most of his value range versus huge shove. Silly call.

Originally posted by ghaleon
You call 4.2bb with 10% equity so that requires close to 2*pot implieds from villain including the rake. I suppose it's fine call if we assume villain to play as bad as he did in this hand.

Villain bet-calling KQ means he is calling most of his value range versus huge shove. Silly call.

All I knew was that he is a reg and he is a bit stationary in blind battles. Many regs are CS on SB vs BB.