PLO100 AQ54ds river call or value raise?

Preflop I think calling or 3betting are both similar in EV but if MP is openraising loose I'd rather squeeze it. There is quite some dead money in it and the bad relative position plus low flop SPR will make it hard to continue well for MP and SB. Even for BU it might be somewhat iffy especially if he is cold-calling too much.

As played in the SRP I would lead the flop small. GS+BDNFD+STR8BL is the optimal bluff candidate to do so. I think we generally should lead way more than optimum in this situation, even with so many involved (they probably all have high vpip's). Combinatorically low (straight) flops are actually even worse for loose (calling) ranges, they have proportionally more high-ranked cards (intuitively many shy away thinking "he could have everything").

Assuming you have no 2-sizing strategy ott (that'd be sick^^) you probably should bet bigger. Your range is not capped and the value-part like straights would go for pot-building. 100-70% pot makes sense to me.

River is straightforward. We should not raise: beside :6x::6x: the :6x::4x: also has us beat and we are unlikely to get value. This leaves calling as the only option.

Umm A4 does beat 64. It only loses to 66 or very rare AA. I would prefer to have more lower cards for some nutty equity over these two high cards to be leading flop. Turn on other hand is rainbow and its 4way so I doubt there is that much need for big sizing. Potting will make it questionable if I only isolate myself versus better with this hand.

Originally posted by ghaleon
Umm A4 does beat 64. It only loses to 66 or very rare AA. I would prefer to have more lower cards for some nutty equity over these two high cards to be leading flop..

Yea true. Well, maybe there is some value against underfulls you could do a small- or minraise. Btw villains half-pot is signaling weakness and you correctly mentioned AAxx is very unlikely so we dont have to fear a 3bet.

If they have VPIP 50 or something like that you cannot be overly picky with your bluffs on the flop, otherwise the preflop call is not optimal. You will not hit strong enough often enough to reach the GTO-EV of your hand if you dont bluff at least GTO freq (not for this specific setup but generally spoken). and you would be better off either 3betting or if you don't bluff in 3bp's either^^ with just folding it pre. From my stats on PLO50 fish playing fit-fold in deep SPR multiway pots you often have autoprofit situations on lockdown textures (cards or blockers actually don't matter).

Turn on other hand is rainbow and its 4way so I doubt there is that much need for big sizing. Potting will make it questionable if I only isolate myself versus better with this hand

Board texture is only one factor among many when it comes to choose which sizing. If you vary your sizing depending on your actual hand strength better players will pick up on it. Not sure if you studied solver solutions for turn yet, but solver never does small sizing probes in SRP oop for good reasons. Choosing 1-betsizing only the higher bet-sizes always will generate a higher EV. Finally beside GTO there are practical obvious reasons to bet big. Beside the polarization aspect I have alrdy mentioned, lack of requirement for protection is not an argument either. We did not face 3 barrels or sth. like that, ranges are still loose. And the texture is not locked down in a way that there are not draws at all and ranges are not nuts-or-nothing. Lots of straightdraw stuff. And any can easily outdraw you.

It might be 4way but people here also just put their pants on the same way. If they had an Ace preflop, they have a top-pair on the turn, sometimes twopair. Also they will frequently have weak draws. Flopped straight? No indication for it yet.

Something in your arguments does not make sense. Either way one must be true:

1. Player continue loose and call too much -> you have to bet the turn big to protect your hand and get value from worse.

2. Player continue overly tight and play nuts only -> you have to bluff lead the flop because they gotta fold their air there.