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1d4BestByTest
Joined: 11.12.2010
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GG Poker - $0.05 Ante $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 176.4 BB (VPIP: 35.82, PFR: 8.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 67)
MP: 50 BB (VPIP: 20.31, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 65)
MP+1: 299 BB (VPIP: 45.24, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 85)
CO: 200 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 54)
BTN: 110 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
Hero (SB): 202.4 BB
BB: 200 BB
UTG: 348.6 BB (VPIP: 38.82, PFR: 21.18, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 85)

8 players post ante of 0.4 BB, Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 4.6 BB) Hero has 9♥ 8♠

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 0.6 BB, BB checks

Flop: (7.2 BB, 4 players) 9♦ 2♠ T♦
Hero bets 4 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 4 BB

Turn: (15.2 BB, 2 players) 8♣
Hero bets 9 BB, MP+1 calls 9 BB

River: (33.2 BB, 2 players) 4♥
Hero bets 26 BB, MP+1 raises to 90 BB Hero?

Preflop: really unsure what ranges here should be. But with the extreme odds. This hand at least should be an easy profitable call.

Flop: I have often the best hand, but so many ugly turns/rivers. Bet here makes the hand more straightforward. Not unhappy to just pick up the pot.

Turn: Super easy valuebet.

River: still easy valuebet. Raise feels the only thing I beat some bluff with flushdraws


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
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Originally posted by 1d4BestByTest
River: still easy valuebet. Raise feels the only thing I beat some bluff with flushdraws

There are made straights out there, as well as sets.
You beat all the JJ+ pocket pairs. I've seen AA and KK played just like opponent does here.

This might be an appropriate time for a blocking bet — where you bet 1/4 to 1/3 pot to get opponent to call with a worse made hand.
so bet/call w/ something small, like 10BB, and you're happy to call a 3x raise to 30BB. By betting so large, though opponent has to put so much more in that it becomes to expensive to call.

There is an old saying in poker: "Never go broke in an unraised pot". Unraised as in unraised pre-flop. I think that applies to this hand.


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1d4BestByTest
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Didn't think at that at all. How much is a small bet? Like, really small to almost induce a bluff. Something like 12bb or just normalish bet like 16bb. I feel like normalish against most raises, I still want to fold. So then I almost need to make it really small. But the blockbet is currently totally not at all in my arsenal. So I have no feeling for it.


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Originally posted by 1d4BestByTest
Didn't think at that at all. How much is a small bet? Like, really small to almost induce a bluff. Something like 12bb or just normalish bet like 16bb. I feel like normalish against most raises, I still want to fold. So then I almost need to make it really small. But the blockbet is currently totally not at all in my arsenal. So I have no feeling for it.

For a blocker bet I use 1/4 to 1/3 of the pot. Others have different sizings I presume.
There is also an idea among a lot of players that it is a good play to bet a single BB OOP on the river. This could be an inducement to opponent to bet larger, in which case it is a trap. It could also be a bluff — in Doyle Brunson's book he calls it a "post-oak bluff". A post oak is apparently a worthless tree in Texas.

So in your opponent's seat, let's say you bet 1BB. Are you trapping with QJo (the stone-cold nuts in this hand) or are you bluffing?
This same idea works for 1/10, 1/4 or 1/3 of the pot, but the bigger you go, the more expensive it is to call the raise.

There are a lot of low-stakes players that can shove a stack as a bluff. "It's only 10 bucks". For me though, I like to hang on to my money, so If I'm going to bet/fold the river, I want the bet to be as small as possible to do the job. If I'm going to bet/call, I want the amount I need to put into the pot to be something I would be too upset about losing.


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SDK1987
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Nasty river spot, but a thinking villain should never raise bluff on the river against your really big Cbet on the river,
Readless I would most likely fold 2 pair, but it's hard to do.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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