Mind Games

If he has stats, maybe both of these players see that I fold to river bets a lot
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $20.00 (VPIP: 17.11, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 79)
SB: $22.08 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 42)
Hero (BB): $22.20
UTG: $34.84 (VPIP: 48.39, PFR: 32.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP: $27.79 (VPIP: 36.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
CO: $10.84 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 67.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 38)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 9♥:8♣:

UTG raises to $0.40, fold, CO calls $0.40, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.30, 3 players) 3♥:5♣:K♦:
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($1.30, 3 players) 9♦:
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65, fold

River: ($2.60, 2 players) T♠:
Hero checks, CO bets $1.71, Hero calls $1.71

CO shows J♦:7♥: (High Card, King)
(Pre 57%, Flop 75%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows 9♥:8♣: (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 43%, Flop 25%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins $5.72
Rake paid $0.30

CO calls UTG with J7o ... only at 888! I would fold the 98 pre oop vs 2 players, but who knows if they play those hands you might have very good implied odds.

Originally posted by Stackoffski
CO calls UTG with J7o ... only at 888! I would fold the 98 pre oop vs 2 players, but who knows if they play those hands you might have very good implied odds.

I have no idea what GTO says, but I'll see a flop getting 5:1, and I'll call 1/2 pot on the turn since nobody seemed excited about the King on the flop. The turn bet looked like a stab to me.

Re: if they play those hands
This was my competition on two NL 20 tables this past couple of hours.
I'm the 109 hands 13 VPIP guy

if calling costs less than 1/10th of your stack[1]

PokerStars - 25/50 Ante 10 NL (4 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 1,880
SB: 120 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)

2 players post ante of 10, SB posts SB 25, Hero posts BB 50

Pre Flop: (pot: 95) Hero has 3♥:5♠:

SB raises to 110 and is all-in, Hero calls 60

Flop: (240, 2 players) 4♠:2♠:T♣:

Turn: (240, 2 players) 6♦:

River: (240, 2 players) 5♣:

Hero shows 3♥:5♠: (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 43%, Flop 48%, Turn 100%)
SB shows K♠:2♥: (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 57%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 240

[1] From on old, old book — "Harrington on Hold'em" by Dan Harrington

I wasn't really comfortable in this one
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $13.52 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $23.25 (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 32.69, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 117)
MP: $13.20 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $20.00 (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 20.95, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 213)
BTN: $20.93 (VPIP: 30.19, PFR: 28.30, 3Bet Preflop: 23.53, Hands: 110)
Hero (SB): $20.00

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has A♠:J♥:

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.60, fold, Hero raises to $2.40, fold, CO calls $1.80

Flop: ($5.00, 2 players) Q♣:5♠:Q♠:
Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.00, 2 players) 6♣:
Hero checks, CO bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10 <<< this looked out of place

River: ($16.20, 2 players) T♥:
Hero bets $5.34, fold <<< after that turn stab, I thought I would stab right back, and fold to a shove

Hero wins $15.39
Rake paid $0.81

unpaid, and fully paid

Unpaid:
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $10.28 (VPIP: 29.73, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 37)
CO: $27.45 (VPIP: 38.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 153)
BTN: $8.43 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $31.17 (VPIP: 26.27, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 262)
BB: $21.33 (VPIP: 26.56, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 17.78, Hands: 132)
Hero (UTG): $26.19

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 2♥ 2♠

Hero raises to $0.60, MP calls $0.60, fold, BTN calls $0.60, fold, fold

Flop: ($2.10, 3 players) 7♦ 8♦ 2♦
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05, fold

Turn: ($4.20, 2 players) 2♣
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($4.20, 2 players) T♦
Hero bets $1.38, fold

Hero wins $3.99
Rake paid $0.21

Fully Paid:
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $20.30 (VPIP: 25.77, PFR: 21.15, 3Bet Preflop: 12.63, Hands: 267)
MP: $26.71 (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 25)
CO: $20.20 (VPIP: 38.62, PFR: 28.97, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 158)
BTN: $32.91 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
SB: $6.48 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): $23.42

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has K♠ 6♠

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40, 2 players) 6♥ 6♣ 5♠
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.80, 2 players) 2♣
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.80, 2 players) 6♦
SB bets $0.60, Hero raises to $23.02 and is all-in, SB calls $5.48 and is all-in

SB shows T♠ 5♦ (Full House, Sixes full of Fives)
(Pre 35%, Flop 0.4%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K♠ 6♠ (Four of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 65%, Flop 99.6%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $12.31
Rake paid $0.65

I've been very mindful lately of what I call "chasing" — that's where you have a modest hand but lots of draws. I don't want to take crap to showdown

Other players seem to have noticed. Flop and turn aggression seem to carry a lot of weight today.

Note that only 3 out of 172 hands went to showdown. I'm clearly not folding too much, because opponents are doing that instead.

just made the last ladder, so all-in any two
(but nobody raised)

Pacific Poker - 10000/20000 Ante 2000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 49,785 (VPIP: 34.62, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 21,982 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 50,482 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 18,452 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
BTN: 64,602 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 23.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 46)
Hero (BB): 25,629
UTG: 10,996 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

7 players post ante of 2,000, Hero posts BB 20,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 34,000) Hero has 9♠:8♥:

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 16,452 and is all-in, fold

Flop: (46,904, 2 players) Q♣:T♦:2♥:

Turn: (46,904, 2 players) Q♦:

River: (46,904, 2 players) J♣:

CO shows A♥:8♠: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 70%, Flop 73%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows 9♠:8♥: (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 30%, Flop 27%, Turn 16%)
Hero wins 46,904

It's only the sixth today, and I've cashed in 4 of the 9 freerolls I've enterred

The last two were top 1% finishes. It almost seems that all the top players have gone elsewhere.

This morning, I dropped a buy-in due to getting too many good chances and missing them.
Then this...
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $24.28 (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 128)
SB: $24.17 (VPIP: 22.58, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
BB: $28.93 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: $23.52 (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 17.98, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 92)
MP: $34.36 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (CO): $24.77

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 5♣:5♦:

fold, MP calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, BTN raises to $1.00, fold, fold, MP calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.30, 3 players) 7♦:4♠:T♦:
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($3.90, 3 players) 5♥:
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $20.00, fold, Hero raises to $23.57 and is all-in, BTN calls $3.08 and is all-in

River: ($50.06, 2 players) Q♣:

BTN shows J♥:T♣: (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 50%, Flop 84%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 5♣:5♦: (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 50%, Flop 16%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $47.56
Rake paid $2.50

Followed shortly by...
Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $20.00 (VPIP: 20.77, PFR: 18.46, 3Bet Preflop: 10.87, Hands: 135)
BTN: $21.31 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: $28.43 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: $24.05 (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 99)
UTG: $34.89 (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (MP): $48.05

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 2♣:2♥:

UTG calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50, 3 players) 7♣:2♦:4♠:
BB bets $0.85, fold, Hero raises to $2.55, BB calls $1.70

Turn: ($7.60, 2 players) 5♣:
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.60, 2 players) 7♥:
BB bets $5.78, Hero calls $5.78

BB shows A♠:2♠: (Two Pair, Sevens and Twos)
(Pre 38%, Flop 6%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows 2♣:2♥: (Full House, Twos full of Sevens)
(Pre 62%, Flop 94%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $18.20
Rake paid $0.96

Since there has been at least one all-in, I would have expected to see a split in the won-at-showdown and the All-in Equity lines

since there is no such split, can I assume that I had *exactly* the correct equity?

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

since there is no such split, can I assume that I had *exactly* the correct equity?

yes

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Hero shows 5♣:5♦: (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 50%, Flop 16%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $47.56

Well, that applies to that hand.
I was all-in on four separate occasions,

On checking, there is the 5♣:5♦: hand, two where opponents folded, and one I lost at showdown but I went all-in on the river, where the equities are already determined, so I guess it makes sense that there is no split.

irrelevant after the turn, but still nice

Pacific Poker - 200/400 Ante 40 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 2,610 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 1.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
UTG+1: 344 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 19)
MP: 2,259 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+1: 9,064 (VPIP: 50.56, PFR: 6.10, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 91)
CO: 2,134 (VPIP: 45.35, PFR: 2.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 87)
BTN: 5,273 (VPIP: 9.62, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
SB: 2,109 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (BB): 3,207

8 players post ante of 40, SB posts SB 200, Hero posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 920) Hero has A♥:4♣:

UTG calls 400, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 400, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (1,720, 3 players) 4♠:2♠:A♣:
Hero checks, UTG bets 800, fold, Hero raises to 2,767 and is all-in, UTG calls 1,370 and is all-in

Turn: (6,060, 2 players) 4♦:

River: (6,060, 2 players) 4♥:

UTG shows Q♠:J♠: (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 47%, Flop 31%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A♥:4♣: (Four of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 53%, Flop 69%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 6,060

four fours, nice hand ... that happened to me this week as well, only I was on the other end with AA and I overshoved on the river against 4 fours

Hey, not only 888 started with the "shrinkflation" of the prize pool in freeolls. Now PartyPoker joins the party: form 50 $ Gtd. the "Free to play" went to 20 $ Gtd. So sad, because freerolls are actually great promos. For many players, especially absolute beginners, building a BR with freerolls is a great chance to become a reg!

Who says that you need thousands of hands to learn a player's tendencies?
I should also mention that this is pretty much the perfect flop

The player to my left has 3Bet my every open-raise. Some I folded, but the previous time he 3Bet me, I 4Bet shoved, and he folded.
So this time (snicker snicker) he just flat calls.

Pacific Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $20.90 (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 21.33, 3Bet Preflop: 11.90, Hands: 156)
SB: $20.60 (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 82)
BB: $33.36 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 34)
Hero (UTG): $24.37
CO: $26.91 (VPIP: 59.46, PFR: 45.95, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 39) <<< not shown are a post-flop aggression factor of 5.7, and a frequency of 73.9

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has A♥:T♦:

Hero raises to $0.60, CO calls $0.60, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) A♣:7♣:T♠:
Hero bets $0.75, CO raises to $3.00, Hero raises to $23.77 and is all-in, CO calls $20.77 <<< bad players can sometimes get good hands, but I'm fairly confident with top two pair.

Turn: ($49.04, 2 players) 5♦:

River: ($49.04, 2 players) 3♥:

Hero shows A♥:T♦: (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO shows A♦:7♦: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) <<< man, it sucks to be him sometimes
(Pre 32%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $46.59
Rake paid $2.45

I thought perhaps that this player had played me before and was exploiting my fairly high fold-to-3Bet preflop (75%), but on checking, I find that this is the first time I've ever encountered him.

Didn't need that river — though it prompted opponent to call

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.99 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): $4.95
BB: $5.22 (VPIP: 50.58, PFR: 14.79, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 524)
UTG: $3.07 (VPIP: 44.68, PFR: 2.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
CO: $5.32 (VPIP: 31.38, PFR: 24.69, 3Bet Preflop: 21.54, Hands: 245)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♣:7♥:2♥:J♦:

fold, CO raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, Hero calls $0.15, fold

Flop: ($0.56, 3 players) 3♠:J♥:5♣:
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.56, 3 players) J♠:
Hero bets $0.28, fold, BTN calls $0.28

River: ($1.12, 2 players) J♣:
Hero bets $0.36, BTN calls $0.36

Hero shows A♣:7♥:2♥:J♦: (Four of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 52%, Flop 71%, Turn 83%)
BTN mucks 9♣:2♣:9♦:A♥: (Full House, Jacks full of Nines)
(Pre 48%, Flop 29%, Turn 17%)
Hero wins $1.77
Rake paid $0.07

sank 50 years ago today

Full story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald

Gordon Lightfoot's ballad and a video documentary

now that the US government has resumed operation, the Astronomy Picture of the Day is back
Every time I open firefox, I see today's picture. If it is better than my existing wallpaper, I make it my new wallpaper.
Today's offering qualifies.

I got mad at 888 a few years ago, and removed almost everything from there.

Since then I just played freerolls, until they removed them a couple of weeks ago
So I started playing NL 20 6-max regular tables, and today I finally broke $1,000

So I'll just enjoy this for a while.
I might withdraw half of it, but I haven't decided yet.
Here is my giraffe for the entire year, hold'em only.
I think that the key — at least on 888 — is to avoid showdown as much as possible.