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[Closed] $1/2SH: AQs, A high calldown

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How do you see this hand? I sow also some strange betting patterns in past and overally had odd feeling from his actions in the hand.

Do you call the river as well?

Funktor

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$1/$2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

MP2 55/11/1.1/WTSD 42/ATS 16

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:h, A:h.
MP2 raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-Bets, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.5 SB) 9:h, 5:s, 6:h (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9:c (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 7:c (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.


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OlivierLu
Joined: 17.11.2007

I think you misplayed this hand. Usually, against a flop donk, I play call flop whatever the strenght of my hand (maybe one expection is I do fold trashy hands).

So, I would have played this one call flop, call turn. I won't raise turn cauz I think I don't have enough fold equity.

As played, the final decision is on the river. Is villain able to 3rd barrel with a missed draw ? And are the draws all missed ?
hum, unlikely holdings like T8, T7 hit something. The only probable hands that you still beat are K:hT:h and J:hT:h. You are beat by the rest of his range which is way bigger.

I fold this one on the river.


The flopraise isn't too bad if you raise for a free card. But with A-high I like to stay passive and just call him down. With a flushdraw and no showdownvalue the flopraise for a freecard is better.
After his turndonk you should take a note that a freecard raise is useless against him.

The rivercard completes a few draws or gives him a pair so I like a fold here more too. AGainst a blank I call again as I don't give a donkbet to much credit.


ciRith,
what to do or how to adjust to players that donks all sort of garbage they have on flop and 3-barrel donk bluf you?

Any recommendation how to adjust to these players?

In general when it is good idea to donk bet player OOP and not to raise him as he will c-bet most of the time...?

Funktor

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

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$1/$2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:h, A:h.
MP2 raises, MP3 folds, Hero 3-Bets, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.5 SB) 9:h, 5:s, 6:h (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9:c (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 7:c (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.
Results follow:

MP2 shows a pair of nines(T:h K:d).
Hero shows a pair of nines(Q:h A:h).

Hero wins with a pair of nines(Q:h A:h).


Well just play showdownbound.
Here you know that he likes to donkbet overcards so you can call him down with any pair and A-high as long as no highcards come (well 1 highcard is often still a calldown but if the turn and river are both highcards and don't help you either then the chance that he outdrew you is just too high).
As default I rather give him a draw so you calldown except when draws arrive (like I said in my first post).

Additionally to being showdownbound you should not raise mediocre hands against him as you want him to continue bluffing.
Against him I don't raise weak sies or worse. If the board has a lot draws then you can raise looser as he can call often enough.
Strong hands should be raised on the flop to raise the turn and river again if no bad cards come.