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[Closed] $33+3 Turbo ITM - KJs in BB facing raise from giant stack

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

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$120/$240 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB(Hero)$2580.00:///////;BU$7985.00:///////;SB$2935.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with J:d, K:d.
BU raises to $960.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $2,580.00, BU calls $1,620.00.

Flop: ($5280) 8:h, 4:d, 4:s (2 players)

Turn: ($5280) 5:d (2 players)

River: ($5280) Q:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $5280.

In the last few hands, villain had 3bet my open raise and limped a pot and then overbet the pot 2x after I had checked. If villain pushes in this spot, Nash says I should call with my hand/stack. Any reason not to repush vs this open raise?
(other than above reads, villain unknown)


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frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

long story short:
- BU raised 4BB preflop
- villain is getting over 2.2 to 1 if you shove
- he is the uber bigstack
-> he won´t fold anything to your push -> you can treat his raise as a push imo

if he is "pushing" more than 44% it becomes a +EV call.

the nash range looks kinda wide to me. i wouldn´t push that wide i guess. dunno what to tell you. i strongly tend to fold but this (as always) depends on the player .
on a second look i even more tend to fold. because as you can see the call/push never becomes very good if he is loose but if he is kinda tight it becomes pretty bad quite easily


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

I dont think the icm wizard models this hand correctly, because he'll never do this with his top hands.

I kind of like the shove with your reads, but its marginal... perhaps fold is better if they are really weak players, you still have a decent stack. If, for instance, SB is a strong regular I'm more tempted to shove.


Unam
Joined: 17.08.2006

I don't mind the push, it is fine. But I think against these bad players you could fold and hope for something better, but that is not actually an argument. If you think you can outplay him you could fold.


Anssi
Joined: 03.07.2008

I normally don't do stop-n-go, but this might be decent spot for it. (Stop-n-go = Call preflop OOP, push any/most flops). I think I still prefer folding this hand though.


i prefer folding this marginal spot and finding better +EV first in pushes especially with 10bb still


LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

It's a bit marginal imo but with your reads shoving looks good.


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