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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

5.5 2R1ad, itm I have little bigger than avg stack
i got on this table 2-3 orbits before this hand no reads on players except for the limper i played before on other table like 2-3 hours with him and he was weak tight, limping a lot with weak hands oop folding ifgot raised or if he calls he was playing fit or fold, folding a lot on Cbet if he hits he often donks.
so i played acording mine reads raise to steal pot ,isolate him and play inp (vs this kind of player mine cards realy doesnt mater to me)
so...

i got cold caler in SB, i saw him before played a hand realy agresiv small pocket think and he was LAG opening a lot UTG, so i put him on pockets ,conectors, AJ, AT , Axs and broadways and maybe AQ ,AK but i think that he will play jj+ AK even AQ agresiv , not cold caling in sb...
any way...
when this flop came... i think i cant ever fold and with so many draws str8/flush i got to play it fast

thoughts??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 1250/2500 Blinds 310 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button (t42436)
SB (t58548)
BB (t74746)
UTG (t19440)
UTG+1 (t108499)
MP1 (t32960)
MP2 (t64104)
Hero (MP3) (t73785)
CO (t54042)

Hero's M: 11.28

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, 4
2 folds, MP1 calls t2500, 1 fold, Hero bets t9350, 2 folds, SB calls t8100, 1 fold, MP1 calls t6850

Flop: (t33340) K, Q, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t25500, SB raises to t48888 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t23388


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budzior
Joined: 26.02.2009

its standard, you have to go broke on this flop of course but i dont like your betsizing. you bet 25k and there is no option that you are folding now. I would bet here 16-17k and give them a path to make mistakes, and shove there with any draw on any king or any bluff. Now they can fold draws because they know that you are not folding now and they know (this lag for sure) that they are behind...

What about preflop? I dont like it. Weak villain have only 13bbs, i dont like isolation raise with these effective stacks. Ok, you have reads that he would donk when he hit something but i dont like it. :P He is i fish, maybe he will play next hand in another way and i dont want to play this pot with so marginal hand like k4s...


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

- about bet size the pot is big enough and i dont mind if they fold their draws
- about limper he is not fish just weak tigh and my hand vs him realy doesnt matter couse he will often just fold preflop and i'll colect the dead money


limping with his stack means he is fish ;)
i wouldnt try to isolate him with his small stack size as well.
its just too likely he feels somehow comitted when there is so much money in the pot.
when you have so good reads it is posible though.
on the flop you go broke for sure, so how to get the most money in ?
i think it doesnt matter alot here.
dont think a flushdraw is going to fold if it is nfd. but the smaller betting size seems to be better because it gives them more options to make mistakes.
you dont mind at all wether they fold their draws or not because there is so much money in you cant get away anyway.
i think i`d bet like 19k so they MIGHT think i can stil fold my hand