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Two hands from the same 9-handed $5.00+$0.50 Turbo MTT I have just played on FTP. The irony of the story: in both case villain was the same guy. Needless to say, I love him.

Hand #1 - 25/50 Blinds

CO (t2370)
Hero (Button) (t2815)
SB (t2015)
BB (t1945)
MP1 (t1025)
MP2 (t1580)
MP3 (t3040)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q♣, Q♠
1 fold, MP2 calls t50, 2 folds, Hero bets t225, 2 folds, MP2 calls t175

Flop: (t525) 2♠, 9♥, J♣ (2 players)
MP2 bets t50, Hero raises to t400, MP2 calls t350

Turn: (t1325) 7♥ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets t2190 (All-In), MP2 calls t955 (All-In)

River: (t3235) Q♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3235

Results:
Hero had Q♣, Q♠ (three of a kind, Queens).
MP2 had 10:diamond:, 8♥ (straight, Queen high).
Outcome: MP2 won t3235

Hand #2 - 50/100 Blinds

UTG+1 (t1990)
Hero (MP1) (t2625)
MP2 (t1870)
MP3 (t1465)
CO (t1440)
Button (t2250)
SB (t835)
BB (t4600)
UTG (t715)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A♦, Q♥
2 folds, Hero bets t300, 5 folds, BB calls t200

Flop: (t650) A♠, 10:club:, 7♣ (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t2325 (All-In), BB calls t2225

Turn: (t5300) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t5300) 2♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t5300

Results:
BB had 8♣, 9♠ (straight, ten high).
Hero had A♦, Q♥ (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won t5300

My thought process:
In the first hand I could not figure out villain's hand range on the flop (but figured out he is either pretty bad or tricky) and could have never guessed his holdings on the turn. I pushed there because I really didn't want to see something scary to hit the board, though it was too late.
Later table became tight so I started to play a bit looser and also because it was a turbo MTT I needed to accumulate chips.
In the second hand same guy calls my raise, I hit top pair and decide to push there, since I know what hands he is capable to call with. And there I went again.
How could I have played better my hands?
I seriously never want to feel like I felt after his second "master-play".


4 replies
TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

#1 standard play
#2 i wouldn't shove on flop. i'l raise him to 600 and shove turn, if :club: hit on tun and he shoves into me i'll fold


budzior
Joined: 26.02.2009

Originally posted by TheRebuz
#1 standard play
#2 i wouldn't shove on flop. i'l raise him to 600 and shove turn, if :club: hit on tun and he shoves into me i'll fold

+1


Hi dember,

in both hands going all-in isnt a mistake, cause youre normally in front of him.

But in my opinion you had pushed too early in both hands:

Hand 1:
On the turn you have much over potsize left and so also a bet of about 800-1000 chips is possible.
Your push is definitly not wrong and exspecially vs. loose players even better, but sometimes the raise is better cause of value aspects.

Hand 2:
Your flopbet is overplayed, cause it often banishs weaker hands like weaker toppairs or draws.
Cause of value aspects a normal raise of about 600-800 chips is better.


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by Eisfuchs
Hi dember,

in both hands going all-in isnt a mistake, cause youre normally in front of him.

But in my opinion you had pushed too early in both hands:

Hand 1:
On the turn you have much over potsize left and so also a bet of about 800-1000 chips is possible.
Your push is definitly not wrong and exspecially vs. loose players even better, but sometimes the raise is better cause of value aspects.

villain have only 955 left so he is actually not over betting pot, hero is betting 955 efective stack ;)


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