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JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

No Limit Holdem Tournament
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Daily Dollar Rebuy

Stacks:
UTG (10,818)
Hero (UTG+1) (28,424)
MP1 (47,081)
MP2 (69,925)
MP3 (7,215)
CO (7,635)
BTN (35,855)
BB (4,555)

Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (800, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 K♥ Q♣
UTG calls 400, Hero calls 400, 1 fold, MP2 raises to 1,200, 2 folds, BTN calls 1,200, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero calls 800

Flop: K♦ J♥ 6♦ (4,800, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 goes all-in 68,675, BTN folds, Hero goes all-in 27,174

Turn: A♦ (100,649, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: T♦ (100,649, 2 players, 2 all-in)

?( I want to pay my attention to this: this was 3rdtime in a row this guy took a monster pot with a good hand!!!

After I limped and he raised again I decided to call my KQo cause I thought: how many times in a row on this God's earth this player can get good hands (IN A ROW!!!).

Decided to check the flop, and after he raised ALL-IN I called immeadiately, cause really didn't think he might have monster again and my KQ might be good enough with TP Q kicker.

And this was 2nd time he hit his trips in a row (with JJ, one before with 99, and 1 hand before KT - 2 pair for him) - I mean: how often this can happen in a row???

1) Should I fold on the flop my top pair against this luckbox???

- I know I had plenty of chips to keep goin' after a folding, but game was ultra-aggressive so I did this move.

What do U decide???


6 replies
BCShad0w
Joined: 07.06.2010

It happens mate.

Ive had AA/KK/KK in a row. Sometimes it just isn't meant to be.

Good luck in the future buddy =].

/Chez


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

this should answer your Question....
remember this
most players like 95%++ when win big pot are not very likely to bluff his chips away in a next 2-3 hands, or to stack off with marginal hands

this is HH from 5 hands in a row from MTT i played couple days ago

PokerStars - $10+$1|30/60 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: 3,150.00
BTN: 3,045.00
SB: 5,950.00
Hero (BB): 4,480.00
UTG: 3,940.00
UTG+1: 1,555.00
MP: 3,870.00
MP+1: 3,137.00
LP: 2,310.00

SB posts SB 30.00, Hero posts BB 60.00

Pre Flop: (90.00) Hero has 7♠ 5♠

UTG raises to 180.00, UTG+1 calls 180.00, fold, fold, LP calls 180.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 120.00

Flop: (750.00, 4 players) T♠ 9♣ 8♠
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets 780.00, fold, Hero raises to 4,300.00 and is all-in, fold, UTG+1 calls 595.00 and is all-in

Turn: (3500.00, 2 players) 6♣

River: (3500.00, 2 players) Q♦

Hero shows 7♠ 5♠ (Straight, Ten High)
UTG+1 shows 8♥ 8♣ (Three of a Kind, Eights)
Hero wins 3,500.00

PokerStars - $10+$1|40/80 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

LP: 3,150.00
CO: 3,045.00
BTN: 5,920.00
Hero (SB): 6,425.00
BB: 3,760.00
UTG: 3,000.00
UTG+1: 3,870.00
MP: 3,137.00
MP+1: 2,130.00

Hero posts SB 40.00, BB posts BB 80.00

Pre Flop: (120.00) Hero has J♠ K♣

UTG calls 80.00, fold, MP calls 80.00, MP+1 calls 80.00, fold, fold, BTN raises to 420.00, fold, fold, UTG calls 340.00, fold, fold

Flop: (1120.00, 2 players) 5♦ 9♦ 7♠
UTG checks, BTN bets 620.00, UTG calls 620.00

Turn: (2360.00, 2 players) T♦
UTG checks, BTN checks

River: (2360.00, 2 players) Q♦
UTG bets 880.00, BTN raises to 3,760.00, fold

BTN wins 4,120.00

PokerStars - $10+$1|40/80 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: 3,150.00
LP: 3,045.00
CO: 8,120.00
Hero (BTN): 6,385.00
SB: 3,680.00
BB: 1,080.00
UTG: 3,870.00
UTG+1: 3,057.00
MP: 2,050.00

SB posts SB 40.00, BB posts BB 80.00

Pre Flop: (120.00) Hero has K♣ K♦

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 240.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to 700.00, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3,150.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 2,450.00

Flop: (6420.00, 2 players) 8♦ A♥ 3♠

Turn: (6420.00, 2 players) 6♣

River: (6420.00, 2 players) 8♠

MP+1 shows Q♦ Q♠ (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
Hero shows K♣ K♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins 6,420.00

PokerStars - $10+$1|40/80 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 3,045.00
MP+1: 8,120.00
Hero (CO): 9,655.00
BTN: 3,640.00
SB: 1,000.00
BB: 3,870.00
UTG: 3,057.00
UTG+1: 2,050.00

SB posts SB 40.00, BB posts BB 80.00

Pre Flop: (120.00) Hero has A♠ A♦

fold, UTG+1 calls 80.00, MP raises to 240.00, fold, Hero raises to 700.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 460.00

Flop: (1600.00, 2 players) K♠ T♠ 6♦
MP bets 2,345.00 and is all-in, Hero calls 2,345.00

Turn: (6290.00, 2 players) 4♦

River: (6290.00, 2 players) 5♣

MP shows Q♦ K♥ (One Pair, Kings)
Hero shows A♠ A♦ (One Pair, Aces)
Hero wins 6,290.00

PokerStars - $10+$1|40/80 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 3,000.00
MP: 8,120.00
Hero (MP+1): 12,900.00
CO: 3,640.00
BTN: 960.00
SB: 3,790.00
BB: 3,057.00
UTG: 1,970.00

SB posts SB 40.00, BB posts BB 80.00

Pre Flop: (120.00) Hero has Q♠ Q♦

UTG calls 80.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to 280.00, fold, fold, SB calls 240.00, fold, UTG raises to 640.00, Hero raises to 12,900.00 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 1,330.00 and is all-in

Flop: (4300.00, 2 players) 4♣ 8♠ 7♥

Turn: (4300.00, 2 players) 3♣

River: (4300.00, 2 players) K♥

UTG shows T♣ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
Hero shows Q♠ Q♦ (One Pair, Queens)
Hero wins 4,300.00


JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

tnx man, logically.

Guess I'm just gaining experience that's not so good at the moment.. :)


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

An opponent waking up with monster hand is always as likely.. No matter his past hands.. if you play 12 hands vs him in a row and he has had AA everytime.. Your now in the 13th hand.. It's still 220 to 1 that he gets AA...

Seems like your falling for "Gamblers Fallacy" and you should probably read about it and how it tricks your brain...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler 's_fallacy

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And the hand is also misplayed..
Preflop we should either raise or fold... Depending on table dynamic.. I don't like overlimping here since we have a really marginal hand and playing KQo in a multiway pot just sucks so much..

As played we should fold to a raise and a call.. We can't be sure that we have the best hand when we hit either K or Q.. So our reverse implied odds are just terrible...

As plyead we shoudl go broke on this flop... We call preflop hoping for a flop like this.. and when we hit it there is no way we can lay our hand down to a donkish overbet shove :)

So yea =)


JohnTheGreatest
Joined: 28.01.2010

Originally posted by Hlynkinn
An opponent waking up with monster hand is always as likely.. No matter his past hands.. if you play 12 hands vs him in a row and he has had AA everytime.. Your now in the 13th hand.. It's still 220 to 1 that he gets AA...

Seems like your falling for "Gamblers Fallacy" and you should probably read about it and how it tricks your brain...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler 's_fallacy

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And the hand is also misplayed..
Preflop we should either raise or fold... Depending on table dynamic.. I don't like overlimping here since we have a really marginal hand and playing KQo in a multiway pot just sucks so much..

As played we should fold to a raise and a call.. We can't be sure that we have the best hand when we hit either K or Q.. So our reverse implied odds are just terrible...

As plyead we shoudl go broke on this flop... We call preflop hoping for a flop like this.. and when we hit it there is no way we can lay our hand down to a donkish overbet shove :)

So yea =)

Tnx, hlynkinn, this helps! :)


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

Originally posted by Hlynkinn
And the hand is also misplayed..
Preflop we should either raise or fold... Depending on table dynamic.. I don't like overlimping here since we have a really marginal hand and playing KQo in a multiway pot just sucks so much..

I prefer to fold ur ahnd on flop
I want to save my chips ... and see me ahead
He will push draws and some better hands
so we are not really ahead