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Originally posted by TobyCS
Originally posted by GodlikeRoy
Why would they possibly do this? If he isn't dead, all he has to do is come out and say "hey guys, i'm alive" and it will wreak havoc for the white house.Do you also believe that the moon landing was staged?...
why would he come out if everyone thinks hes dead lol.. plain stupid!
For the lulz obviously.
it does seem abit fishy, but he more than likely dead, there probably are pictures but if they shot the shit out of him and he has like half a head left i dont see the 6 o'clock news brandishing that, only time will tell i suppose!
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Originally posted by brobz
@ Hahaownedlolz No way Obama is lying its common sense for them to bury the body at sea they don't want him to have a burial site where people can visit him and the piece of shit can be eaten by sharks. Also you have to take something like this at face value when not only does Obama say it but MANY world leaders as well
There was also a person in Pakistan who witnessed the whole attack with the helicpters inside his house and tweeted aboutt it, later finding out that it was an attack on Osamahttp://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/it-guy-unknowlingly-live-tweets-osama-bin-ladens-death
Kinda laughable that you mention smosh.com as a referance but whatever ♦
It does make sense to bury it that fast considering that or atleast saying they did. But still.. it wouldn't have hurt to release pictures/videos for some proof.
Do have to mention many world leaders saying it doesn't mean shit. They'd all lie for the USA Government in the first place. Secondly were they all standing there while Osama was shot. They only know what the USA governement has told them. Which is what they've told all of us. Also just because that city was attacked and that person who was in that city noticed it how does that prove that Osama died. It only proves they attacked that city he was *supposedly* at. How many helicopter attacks you think USA have done in the last 8 years of this war?Just saying there's still absolutely no proof whatsoever. Knowing so little for the motives for the USA government to actualy fake it i'm more leaning towards he's dead. But it's definetly possible and quite frankly wouldn't surprise me.
lol somebody offers u proof and you just ignore it and still offer your silly claims. Sorry but theres no use talking to you anymore, there will always be crazy concpriacy therorists like you, you just wartch too many movies.
It also laughable that story I gave you was listed on eveyr major news site I jus offered you a quick link lmao
Also just reading that part I bolded proves you have no rastional thinking but funny nonetheless
this is not good... the terrroists will be foking pissed now = planning loads of terror attacks prolly we'll see in the future.
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Just to always assume the simplest explanation till there is more proof to suggest otherwise or to assume the explanation that has the least theories(unknown things) is correct is pretty ignorant. How about actualy thinking about it yourself instead of taking the word from a person for it ? Just think about wikileaks... that site has published so many lies and secrets of the USA government and your still going to take their word for something they can't prove?
Therefore there is plenty to suggest Obama is lying. And to truly find the most logical answer you'd have to know everything about Obama, Osama, the war in iraq, USA credibility when it comes to their public statements and so much more. To truly know all the reasons and motives the USA government could have for lying about it. Something which probably no one knows all about on this planet.
So tired of people using Ockham's Razor as an excuse for ignorance and to just disregard other possibilities. I'm sure you will just respond with another reponse not worth wasting time on.
You suck
Originally posted by Heffron89
this is not good... the terrroists will be foking pissed now = planning loads of terror attacks prolly we'll see in the future.
The future is full of terrorist attacks.. and it's not due to revenge for the murder of osama but due to the revenge on USA imperialism.
Anyone thinks Obama will take his troops out of Afghanistan now that the thread of Osama has been neutralized?
osama has been dead for years, obama's public support is at an all time low and this just amazingly happens.
I know he has a lot of crazy rants and makes some strange connections but there is truth in what he speaks on most matters, just he puts it across in such a way it looks suspect. its all on record, don't get sucked in by this insane propaganda which is no better than what Hitler tried to do. Hitlers downfall was he didn't live in the technological age where he could own, fund and control the global media and have a team of unbelievable spin doctors to make everything fit. In this day and age if any one wants to argue the fact that the USA would not do something this despicable, then your mis-informed and gullible.
USA has been chasing Osama for like at least 10 years and spent billions of dollars, and if they didn't succeed, the USA citizens would be pissed. So they finally had to 'find him and give him a lesson'.
Moreover, I wouldn't do anything if I was in Osama's shoes, since he would have finally reduced if not avoided high pressure of USA's soldiers and intelligence agencies going after him 
Originally posted by 2brokenjaws
osama has been dead for years, obama's public support is at an all time low and this just amazingly happens.I know he has a lot of crazy rants and makes some strange connections but there is truth in what he speaks on most matters, just he puts it across in such a way it looks suspect. its all on record, don't get sucked in by this insane propaganda which is no better than what Hitler tried to do. Hitlers downfall was he didn't live in the technological age where he could own, fund and control the global media and have a team of unbelievable spin doctors to make everything fit. In this day and age if any one wants to argue the fact that the USA would not do something this despicable, then your mis-informed and gullible.
lol ok
The point is, the alleged death of the alleged perpetrator (and more pertinently, symbol) of the September 11 attacks was, if it did indeed occur (we await proof), an extra-judicial execution carried out by the military on the sovereign territory of a foreign power that wasn't informed of the operation. The body was then hastily disposed of. This doesn't exactly sound like justice to the rest of the world, or to any Westerner who respects the rule of law; rather, thousands of new recruits will be incited to join anti-American militant groups throughout the Muslim world.
Instead, the USA could have arrested bin Laden like any other alleged mass-murderer and given him a fair and independent trial. But it was far easier for the administration to gain some quick brownie points, indulge in ignorant populism, and try to forget the inevitable long-term consequences of this witless fuck-up it has once again engineered for itself.
Instead, the USA could have arrested bin Laden like any other alleged mass-murderer and given him a fair and independent trial.
who would want to imprison Osama bin laden in their country ♦...
That would mean some suicide bombings in your backyard ♦
I should add that I'm not anti-American: just angry and disappointed with the US system. The USA is supposed to have taken on the role of international defender of democracy, enlightenment, and the rule of law - ideas that I will greatly miss if they disappear from the world due to neglect and abuse.
Originally posted by Hlynkinn
Instead, the USA could have arrested bin Laden like any other alleged mass-murderer and given him a fair and independent trial.
who would want to imprison Osama bin laden in their country ♦...
That would mean some suicide bombings in your backyard ♦
I tend to think they weighed up a prolonged trial (which of course is an awesome opportunity to spend years inciting terrorism in an open forum with mass global coverage) v a shorter period of coverage and the obvious martyr status he would then take on, and decided years of free ads for terrorism balanced the precepts of a more democratic form of justice.
Better decision? Dunno. Probably a pragmatic decision that no-one ever wants to have to make.
In a timely act of protest, Superman himself is renouncing his U.S. citizenship ( http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/superman-renounces-his-us-citizenship-20110504-1e780.html ).
In the best American tradition, Superman will always be proud of his identity as an immigrant to a small town in Kansas - but he's sick and tired of his integrity and heroism being distorted into some kind of representative voice for a status quo that functions as massive welfare payout for bankers in New York, privileged Ivy Leaguers in the White House, rightwing nutbar shockjocks, and the other parasitic failures who've somehow taken control of the world's greatest democracy. Screw them, and hooray for Superman and the artists who've maintained his true heroism.
Originally posted by brobz
Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
Originally posted by brobz
@ Hahaownedlolz No way Obama is lying its common sense for them to bury the body at sea they don't want him to have a burial site where people can visit him and the piece of shit can be eaten by sharks. Also you have to take something like this at face value when not only does Obama say it but MANY world leaders as well
There was also a person in Pakistan who witnessed the whole attack with the helicpters inside his house and tweeted aboutt it, later finding out that it was an attack on Osamahttp://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/it-guy-unknowlingly-live-tweets-osama-bin-ladens-death
Kinda laughable that you mention smosh.com as a referance but whatever ♦
It does make sense to bury it that fast considering that or atleast saying they did. But still.. it wouldn't have hurt to release pictures/videos for some proof.
Do have to mention many world leaders saying it doesn't mean shit. They'd all lie for the USA Government in the first place. Secondly were they all standing there while Osama was shot. They only know what the USA governement has told them. Which is what they've told all of us. Also just because that city was attacked and that person who was in that city noticed it how does that prove that Osama died. It only proves they attacked that city he was *supposedly* at. How many helicopter attacks you think USA have done in the last 8 years of this war?Just saying there's still absolutely no proof whatsoever. Knowing so little for the motives for the USA government to actualy fake it i'm more leaning towards he's dead. But it's definetly possible and quite frankly wouldn't surprise me.
lol somebody offers u proof and you just ignore it and still offer your silly claims. Sorry but theres no use talking to you anymore, there will always be crazy concpriacy therorists like you, you just wartch too many movies.
It also laughable that story I gave you was listed on eveyr major news site I jus offered you a quick link lmao
Also just reading that part I bolded proves you have no rastional thinking but funny nonetheless
Yet the only thing you do if flame me with insults stating 0 arguements or reasoning like i've done. I still see 0 proof.. there is no proof.. How is a building getting attacked by the US proof Osama is dead? The only thing that proves is that navy seals killed people in that building. Nothing more, nothing less. And if you think the US doesn't have ALOT of power and influence in the world your severly mistaken.
I'm far from a conspiracy theorist by the way. I just don't blindly assume shit without proof. That's something that's called faith and i don't believe in god. Your just being ignorant and buying all the crap that's being fed to you.
As has been said before.. It's a great timing for Obama for Osama to be declared dead. It's all just way too convenient along with US's credibility why i wouldn't ever just buy the crap they say without proof.
I'm pretty much done with the topic though. Already said what i've wanted to say. Tried to stay polite but if other people are rude. Then i'm simply not just going to sit back and take their crap.
and by the way if anybody actually done any research themselves instead of digesting spoon fed drivvle from the likes of CBS, Fox, CNN and Sky News they would find items of interest from credible sources, a lot more credible than any used in this discussion and find bin laden suffered terribly with poor kidneys, though not life threatening with treatment, it required him to use a mobile dialysis machine, and he also suffered with marfan syndrome which significantly reduces life expectancy, by at least half and that's why it was no coincidence that his right hand man, Ayman al-Zawahiri is a surgeon and physician.
basically bin laden is, and has been dead for years now. he had nothing to do with the attack to begin with he was used as a scape goat, patsy whatever you want to call it. it clearly seems obvious whoever decided to use bin laden, had prior knowledge of this horrible illness and knew he would be dead long before he could ever be trialled. don't take my word for it, do some proper research, on both sides and come to your own conclusion...
i'll admit there is a lot of nonsense and out right insane stuff regarding this matter out there that there's no evidence for. and one of those insane facts that there's no evidence for is bin laden even being involved in 9/11 to begin with.
look for interviews with respected educated people who have found evidence to support their claims.
one very such man is Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.
Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.
The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.
Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.
Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.
Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.
“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.
“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.
“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.
“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.
“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.
ok very long post but i think its very important people really realise whats going on. you are entitled to your opinion also and i will not fault you for that but just open your mind and see the tree from the forest, even just a little bit.