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[Closed] btm set dry flop nl200

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supeyrio
Joined: 11.11.2009

villian is a reg 25/20 fold to flop cbet 43% c/r flop cbet 18% W$WSF 47% aggro fact 3.1 over 1.9k hands

always sets or better so we fold? or we call because he could occasionally spew and we get great odds on the river?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($399)
BB ($468)
UTG ($250)
Hero ($217)
CO ($473)
BTN ($193)

Dealt to Hero 2♥ 2♦

fold, Hero raises to $5.95, fold, BTN calls $5.95, fold, BB calls $3.95

FLOP ($18.85) 9♥ 2♠ 3♦

BB checks, Hero bets $13, BTN folds, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $23

TURN ($90.85) 9♥ 2♠ 3♦ 5♣

BB bets $57, Hero calls $57

RIVER ($204) 9♥ 2♠ 3♦ 5♣ 7♥

BB bets $370 (AI), Hero calls $118 (AI)


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Do you have his turn/river aggresion? I think the river move is marginal, we're getting like ~25%. We don't beat anything except a bluff (he'll rarely have TT+ IMO). I'd still call as I'm excluding some pocket pairs because they are weak by just flatting preflop OOP vs LATE.


N0pr3s3n7
Joined: 14.05.2009

Don't really get it ,if he ch/r this flop any set and you fold 9x or better it doesn't make sense to ch/r sets on such dry bords. Anyway if he thinks you ain't folding TT+ till the river than he can be rising 99 or 33 but since I doubt he is doing it all the time I think he can easily have 45,some A4/A5 bd fd + gutshot that he can play like this.So still be calling.


i puke and call. Interested to see what coach says. I definately can see an argument for folding and it could very well be possible. This villain though just has such a high WWSF and overall aggression that i'm not so sure that i want to fold my set. Esp. don't fold if you think there is anyway he slowplays QQ+ preflop. Tough hand wow


I am never fodlign vs guy w simmilar aggro stats like I have.
Bad thing is that he is ch/ring 3way so that makes his range a bit stronger but I woudl still discount a lto fo combos of sets so I am "Shipthola" calling


The more I think about it the closer it gets. Guess I slightly prefer folding the R. Sick hand though!


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I think it's impossible to tell wether a fold is actually better than a call.

On the flop he might or might not have a bluffingrange, but generally for a thinking opponent it is possible - and if he has he probably plans on firing 3 streets because he knows that we are likely to call overpairs on flop+turn but will most likely fold to a 3rd barrel.

Also I recently had 2 occasions where people actually overcalled AA and KK preflop in a spot like this (instead of squeezing), so I think there are about 1-2 combinations of KK+ in his range.

3 combinations of 54s and 3 of A5s just busted (4 of A4s got there though), he has 99 and 33 in his range (3 combos each) - so 10 valuecombinations and betwen 0 and 8 bluffs or worse valuehands.

At the table I end up calling... ;(


You deffo need to reduce combos of 99 ... I would even completely put it out cause there might be a discount to a 33 as well, so I will jsut put 33 in there


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by THESHade
You deffo need to reduce combos of 99 ... I would even completely put it out cause there might be a discount to a 33 as well, so I will jsut put 33 in there

You're right, he might squeeze 99 for value.
If BU is a reg he should squeeze 33 as well, otherwise he's calling it almost always imo.


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

I fold river. I'd say his most likely hand is A4 or 33, while his only bluff i can think of is 54s


salflip
Joined: 02.10.2007

wo further reads i puke and call also, hes so polarized. with nittier stats I can def see myself folding though.

actually with A4s beating as well i think i prefer to fold here :f_mad: