Originally posted by gadget51
Would it make sense to open a dedicated thread for this verneer? Just a thought.
Sure! So basically ...
1. People post reasons why they deserve to get the book + an hour of private coaching.
2. A panel of three judges picks the most worthy person.
Is that kind of what you had in mind?
Originally posted by verneer
Originally posted by jbpatzer
I can whine better than Roo. No contest.Prove it. Graphically.
Graphically??? What units shall I measure the whining in? Metric or Imperial?
Imperial = Helmuths, Metric = Patzers. They even named the unit after me. Good enough?
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Imperial = Helmuths, Metric = Patzers. They even named the unit after me. Good enough?
Graphically:
You plot losing hands on the "Y me" axis, and dollars lost on the "Y Y Y" axis
watching your series climbing mount micro...its awesome..teaching me many things...
Subscribed. It looks like you made a lot of valuable post before, I think I'm gonna take a look on them. Thanks and welcome. 
Welcome to PS man, I enjoyed "Moving up uNl 2010" very much.
So what are you playing right now? (I'm assuming you're playing because of the shiny avatar)
Originally posted by bjela
Welcome to PS man, I enjoyed "Moving up uNl 2010" very much.So what are you playing right now? (I'm assuming you're playing because of the shiny avatar)
Thanks! I'm playing on Merge, although my volume has been limited due to all the work in the final stages of the book coming out.
I had trouble doing things on the forums with my "basic" status so the friendly folks at PS upgraded me. Anything above "basic" would have worked, but this one looks fun 
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Imperial = Helmuths, Metric = Patzers. They even named the unit after me. Good enough?Graphically:
You plot losing hands on the "Y me" axis, and dollars lost on the "Y Y Y" axis
You're no fun.
Originally posted by jbpatzer
You're no fun.
Post normal HEM graph, add MS Paint IMO.
Skim this thread and just look at the series of pictures. A true artist at work.
Originally posted by verneer
Originally posted by jbpatzer
You're no fun.Post normal HEM graph, add MS Paint IMO.
Skim this thread and just look at the series of pictures. A true artist at work.
Nikachu is the master. And his videos are great.
I'm not going to enter your nice competition. I have a coach. We're writing a book. You are a competitor. I will buy your lovely book to see what we're up against. I hope it sells almost as well as ours will.
Originally posted by jbpatzer
I have a coach. We're writing a book. You are a competitor. I will buy your lovely book to see what we're up against. I hope it sells almost as well as ours will.
Oh cool! Am I really a competitor? I think poker books are about finding your niche. What is your target audience and topic?
My main motivation for writing a book was that I was unhappy with the other books out there. I felt that many were focused too much on just strategy and not enough on some of the soft-skills (tilt, reviewing your game, BRM, etc) which separate winners from b/e players.
So it makes me happy to hear that someone else is working on a product. More choices is good for everyone. If you have any questions about the whole process (It's been pretty much 8 solid months of work for me), feel free to PM me. Some quick tips I can give you that I wish I could give myself before I started:
1. Find a good editor and offer them a % of profits instead of an hourly rate. The quality of the writing should be like a referee at a soccer match - you only notice it if it's bad, and when you do, it can become the focus. Edits are extensive and you will probably go through multiple rounds of them.
2. Have a clear vision for why you are writing the book. If you are doing it for financial reasons you are likely to be disappointed. I wanted my students to have a fairly inexpensive (in the grand scheme of private poker coaching) starter guide which would cover in one sitting multiple coaching sessions of material. I wrote it to save them money (sounds weird, doesn't it?).
3. Decide on a price early in the process (I wish I did that). This will guide your distribution. A $15 e-book can be marketed very differently than a $50 printed book. There is upside and downside to both. Shipping fees and time are a major deterrent from people getting mine.
4. Be consistent with language and keep a guide to how you write certain words. For example: Will you write check/call, check and call, or check-call? If two of you are writing, share a document in which you discuss such situations as they come up. Will you use c-bet or continuation bet? Be consistent.
I hope you keep me updated on the process and I wish you lots of luck!
Originally posted by verneer
Originally posted by jbpatzer
I have a coach. We're writing a book. You are a competitor. I will buy your lovely book to see what we're up against. I hope it sells almost as well as ours will.Oh cool! Am I really a competitor? I think poker books are about finding your niche. What is your target audience and topic?
My main motivation for writing a book was that I was unhappy with the other books out there. I felt that many were focused too much on just strategy and not enough on some of the soft-skills (tilt, reviewing your game, BRM, etc) which separate winners from b/e players.
So it makes me happy to hear that someone else is working on a product. More choices is good for everyone. If you have any questions about the whole process (It's been pretty much 8 solid months of work for me), feel free to PM me. Some quick tips I can give you that I wish I could give myself before I started:
1. Find a good editor and offer them a % of profits instead of an hourly rate. The quality of the writing should be like a referee at a soccer match - you only notice it if it's bad, and when you do, it can become the focus. Edits are extensive and you will probably go through multiple rounds of them.
2. Have a clear vision for why you are writing the book. If you are doing it for financial reasons you are likely to be disappointed. I wanted my students to have a fairly inexpensive (in the grand scheme of private poker coaching) starter guide which would cover in one sitting multiple coaching sessions of material. I wrote it to save them money (sounds weird, doesn't it?).
3. Decide on a price early in the process (I wish I did that). This will guide your distribution. A $15 e-book can be marketed very differently than a $50 printed book. There is upside and downside to both. Shipping fees and time are a major deterrent from people getting mine.
4. Be consistent with language and keep a guide to how you write certain words. For example: Will you write check/call, check and call, or check-call? If two of you are writing, share a document in which you discuss such situations as they come up. Will you use c-bet or continuation bet? Be consistent.
I hope you keep me updated on the process and I wish you lots of luck!
Thanks for the advice.
1. + 2. I've written a couple of maths textbooks, so I have some insight into the writing/editing process (I will be doing the editing), and also the 'being disappointed if you're writing it for the money' aspect, although I find it hard to believe that a poker book could make any less money than my maths books 
(although they probably contributed to me getting my current job). I think we're writing it because we feel that we can offer something a bit different to what's on the market at the moment (I play the role of 'huge fish who's willing to work hard and learn' and TT plays the role of ' ♠_cool: ').
3. Not sure I agree there. We do have a publisher who wants to publish it.
4. I am a language fascist. No inconsistent usage will pass my keyboard. ♠_evil:
Frequent updates in my blog.
It sounds like you are experienced with the whole process (you can probably offer me much better advice than I could offer you) and a really cool idea for a theme to the book.
How much have you discussed it in your blog? Have you posted any preview sections?
Originally posted by verneer
It sounds like you are experienced with the whole process (you can probably offer me much better advice than I could offer you) and a really cool idea for a theme to the book.How much have you discussed it in your blog? Have you posted any preview sections?
There's some discussion in my blog, but I have no idea where. My blog is 10% sensible and 90% complete nonsense. The PS search button is defeated by it every time. No previews yet.
Originally posted by roopopper
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Spoiler
some1 took a picture from my blog.. 
Looking for Value
I was watching a 25NL video from a beginner named Ben the other day and he picked up A :spade:T 
in the big blind. It folds around to the Small Blind who, after around 1.2K hands is playing 26/19. He opens to $0.75.
I paused the video. The conversation went something like this:
"So what are you thinking here?" I asked.
"Well - he's loose and seems aggressive. My A♠T♦ is ahead of his range," Ben answered. "So should I three-bet?"
"Why do you want to three-bet?"
"For value."
"How does three-betting here get you value?"
"I have very high equity versus his range so I want to get value," he essentially repeated what he said the first two times.
I find that a lot of players I work with know a lot about poker stuff. There is a reason they reached out to me - they must have read or seen my work (articles, videos, posts) elsewhere and then gone through the effort of getting in touch with me. They also are willing to pay for private coaching, so none of them are novices.
They understand that people three-bet light, they understand the idea of different ranges from different positions, but I think most grossly misunderstand the concept of value. Poker is a game of making decisions which provide the highest value. Everyone here can probably give me a few quick examples of a value bet. Easy enough. What about examples of a value check? What about a value fold?
For example - imagine a hypothetical situation in which you have K :spade:K 
on a 8 :heart:7 
2 2 4 board and you know (because in a stroke of magic, you saw through his cards) that your opponent has a missed flush draw. Should you put out a value bet?
"It Depends" ... don't you hate when people say that?
But back to the A :spade:T hand. There are a lot of factors to consider here, but the first and most important one is how the villain responds to three-bets. This one had an overall Fold vs. Three-Bet percentage of 56% and a Fold SB Steal vs. BB Three-Bet of around 60%. He tends to four-bet aggressively and I imagine that he amps that aggression up even more when faced with a blind-on-blind three-bet.
So where is the value?
1. Unless we think that he is going to call with a lot of dominated and weaker hands and then pay us off postflop when we both hit, there is limited value in three-betting, unless ...
2. He four-bets us and then we five-bet shove and he either calls with worse (unlikely) or folds, or ...
3. We want to develop an aggressive imagine and cause someone to spew against us in the future. I often hear this argument from players who are looking to justify their own epic spew.
4. There is value of seeing the flop in position versus his opening range (which is wide). This opens up a whole other discussion of ways to get value postflop which I won't go into in this blog entry. I believe that this player was ripe for getting some value from postflop based on his postflop tendencies and the fact that Ben was in position.
When we started the video again, we watched Ben three-bet and the villain folded. Even though Ben won the hand, I felt like he missed out on bigger value in this situation.
Originally posted by TilTmuch
Originally posted by roopopper
posting pics is easygoogle imgur... select computer... open pic... download....select thumnail....select forum and message boards.....copy ♦
Spoiler
some1 took a picture from my blog..
lol you know its my favourite pic in the world, and it saved your blog too
