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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I found this from the internet:

Solution:

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2/3 (not 1/2)

You know that you do not have Bag B (two black marbles) so there are three possibilities

You chose Bag A, first white marble. The other marble will be white
You chose Bag A, second white marble. The other marble will be white
You chose Bag C, the white marble. The other marble will be black

So 2 out of 3 possibilities are white.

Why not 1/2? You are selecting marbles, not bags.

I disagree, as the starting point of the question is a situation where we already have the white ball. So we know it's either A or C bag. And therefore it is 50% chance of being A. Am I wrong?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Kyyberi
I disagree, as the starting point of the question is a situation where we already have the white ball. So we know it's either A or C bag. And therefore it is 50% chance of being A. Am I wrong?

As it said, you're selecting marbles.
At the time you start the puzzle, you select a bag and draw a white marble.
There are 3 possible marbles left. Two are white.

This reminds me of the conceptual problem I had when figuring out odds in poker.
We hold two hearts.
The flop holds two hearts
What are the odds of hitting a flush on the turn?

We say 9/47 or 19% or stated another way, 4:1 against.
It took me a long time to realize that this is true -- I couldn't stop thinking about all the hearts in all the other player's hands.

Cheers,
VS


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You can calculate the odds for someone holding a heart and then taking that into account. The odds are still the same.

It would be 2/3 if all the marbles were in the same bag. But you are choosing a bag and you have two possible outcomes after you draw that first marble: Either you selected A or you selected C.

We could start the puzzle after you took the first marble. It would say like this:

You have selected a bag that contains either a black or white marble. What are the odds you draw a white marble?

As you either have A or C bag, which means that the marble left in your bag is either black or white. 2/3 would apply if you could choose to draw the second marble from A or C.


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